• Hegar@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    We live in a deterministic universe and control is just not real. It’s not something that could possibly exist.

    I do find that funny in a lot of ways, and the universe is cruel is many ways. But mostly I find the illusion of control a silly joke, or sometimes a kind joke.

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      2 months ago

      Wether it is deterministic or not is not written into stone though. Determinism and free will have been debated heavily in the philosophy in the last centuries. Just stating “we live in a deterministic universe” is a point of view, but not a scientific fact.

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      2 months ago

      We live in a deterministic universe and control is just not real.

      There is as much proof for that statement as when you would have said “God determines everything”

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      2 months ago

      We live in a deterministic universe […]

      We literally do not, processes on the micro scale that in sum determine the outcome on a macro scale are all at bane of the uncertainty principle, randomness and noise.

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      2 months ago

      I think you and u/deur are talking about 2 different levels of control, similar to the difference between weather and climate.

      I control when I get up in the morning, I control what job I sell out or stay at, etc., etc. But I have no control over the wildfire/tornado/hurricane/flood/landslide that takes out my house. I don’t have control over the mass shooter/suicide bomber/terrorist attack that takes me out. I don’t have control over a government insistent on destroying foreign relations and weakening the spending power of my dollar.

      Individuals have control on a micro scale. The larger the scale gets, the less control one has. The only real control we have is how we react to the world around us.