No matter what happens, I believe the author is correct. Europe will not trust the US in a long time. Trump actually has managed to destroy the image of America in the entire world, in a few months.
I’m from Europe, I have relatives in the US, I’ve spent a whole year doing my senior year in the US, I’ve traveled to the US multiple times. What is currently happening makes me incredibly sad. I’ve always seen Trump as something temporary, some illness that has befallen a great country that soon will be healed. But what JVL writes is true, trust in the US is gone, for good. I see it within myself, my peers and in the local media.
Would it change your opinion in the long run if it ended up being proven that the 2024 election was stolen?
Not the person you responded to, but no.
As long as the US does not fix it’s broken two party system and reconciles it’s divided society it cannot be trusted.
This realization may be painful for Americans. But we should know that the rest of the world understands us more clearly than we understand ourselves.
It seems to me most Americans here know what’s going on, and understand it well.
But overall I think most Europeans understand USA in a way most Americans don’t. We generally understand how USA as a society is sick, sick with selfishness to a degree it’s become sociopathic, and for some reason it refuses anything that could help cure it.50 years ago USA was to many Europeans an ideal to follow. Today it’s a warning of what NOT to do.
“It seems to me most Americans here know what’s going on”
1/3 didn’t vote and a 1/3 voted for this. so by no definition do most people have a fucking clue.
Actually it’s pretty clear a significant portion of the American population is enthusiastic about this. I don’t know what is provocative about pointing out that Americans are renowned for their racism, transphobia, and misogyny. This country had literal slaves for 200 years, has only let women vote for less than 100 years, and still pretends the Civil War was about states rights. Open your eyes: this IS what America wants, and who America has decided to become.
the floor for being enthusiastic about this is voting for it, so your first assertion is flat wrong. that none voting third is too apathetic to care about other people. the saying has been floating around for a while about the 1/3 that wants to kill you while the other third watches.
every country has committed atrocities. inherited sin is stupid. we can acknowledge the errors and systemic issues of our forefathers and move passed them.
I won’t split hairs about what enthusiasm really looks like, but I’ll respond to your last point: I agree, but it is naive and dangerous to argue that the United States has even come close to acknowledging its sins. Until then, you all will bear the full weight of those sins, like it or not.
you’re a miserable sack of shit then, got it.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Good luck with life.
