• buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t want Waltz anywhere near the presidency.

    I would definitely vote for AOC any day of the week though.

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      1 year ago

      Well I want a team that can win. Other people do like Walz; Harris’ popularity spiked with that announcement. The campaign then hid him under a rock because he scared donors.

    • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      Even though AOC is one of the rare American politicians that I like, it’s probably not the best idea to make her the presidential candidate. Simply due to the fact that she’s a woman. The last few dem losses make it clear that America is still very sexist.

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        I’m in some circles that would never support her because she sat down with Hasan Piker. I would absolutely support her, but she’s pretty polarizing. Same was said of Bernie despite him having one of the most successful grassroots attempts in history. Blows my mind that because they’re populists they’re immediately discounted by some, even though the positions they support are the ones we desperately need.

        Forgive my rant, but just because Trump is a populist with us vs them rhetoric does not make them equal by any fucking stretch of the imagination, and it drives me insane that the friends I’m thinking of are so blinded by the label.

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        Simply due to the fact that she’s a woman. The last few dem losses make it clear that America is still very sexist.

        Democrats really are willing to shut out all women as soon as a progressive woman is suggested.

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        Is it because they were women? Are you sure it wasn’t because they were borderline Republicans? Both Clinton and Harris are two of the most conservative democratic candidates to run in the last 30 years.

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          Well keep running women and keep coming up with excuses in why they loose besides admiring America is sexist.

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        I unfortunately believe it may play some role too for some voters. There are Americans who still embrace their cultures, where there is an emphasis more on men being in charge. Think of some middle eastern cultures for example. And of course, there’s the sexists.

        Sad reality also is there is a lot of racism still within our country…

        • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.org
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          There may be other reasons, but US has never had a woman president. Ever. I don’t think this is the time to risk it again. Maybe if the dems win once and do well, they can try pushing for AOC next.

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          The mental disconnect American liberals have with reality is staggering. Clinton and Harris did not lose the elections to Trump because they were women. They lost because they were unlikeable corporatist democrats that enabled genocide and supported the American oligarchy over the American people, and that was obvious to everyone with a brain.

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          I’ve heard Republicans talk in the wild… You really, really underestimate how misogynistic people are. We’re close but right now we need certainty. I think a woman VP is the best bet, and I would HATE To relegate aoc to the nothing that is VP. Give it another 8 years before running aoc imo

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            The kind of Republicans that would never vote for a woman are also the kind that would never vote for a Democrat.