Like:

People should be allowed to exist

Social programs aren’t communism

The system isn’t working for the people

Edit:

I’ve changed my mind on this.

Let the DNC go full MAGA and when they lose, because they will lose, they get the heat and we can eject them forever. At least sit them in a corner.

Progressives, you fight if you want but I don’t believe the elections will be fair so it’s a win win for you.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    8 days ago

    But they are tone deaf when you point out that the Democratic party is not willing to run on the platform on Medicare-for-all, build more social housing and increase federal minimum wage (and ditch Israel), which made the party unappealing and lose consistently.

    Oh cool, those are winning issues in the Dem primaries, right?

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
      11·
      7 days ago

      So you are indeed one of those.

      It is as if Bernie, a more popular candidate, wasn’t deliberately sidelined. It is as if Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, another popular politician, wasn’t selected to head the Oversight committee and chose instead a geriatric, monied politician. It is

      And finally, ask yourself, is not running on those popular platforms gave Democrats the win in elections? Or are you going to call people dumb? Who is really the dumb one for losing against annoying orange?

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        7 days ago

        So you are indeed one of those.

        “BlueMAGA is when you look at a fascist-voting electorate and don’t see The Indomitable Rise Of The Proletariat™ in a fascist electoral victory”

        It is as if Bernie, a more popular candidate, wasn’t deliberately sidelined.

        More popular as measured by…?

        It is as if Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, another popular politician, wasn’t selected to head the Oversight committee and chose instead a geriatric, monied politician.

        That has nothing to do with Dem primaries or the electorate, man.

        And finally, ask yourself, is not running on those popular platforms gave Democrats the win in elections?

        No. If it was, why would Bernie not have won the Dem primaries? If these positions were so overwhelmingly popular when expressed by politicians and not as abstracts, why would Bernie, an undeniably charismatic, fucking spotless politician with years of experience and a sharp wit, lose to Clinton, and then Biden?

        Or are you going to call people dumb? Who is really the dumb one for losing against annoying orange?

        I didn’t realize intelligence was measured in votes. I guess I have to concede that your position is correct - by that measure, fascism is smart, while all the losers are dumb. Like the Dems. And the PSL.

        After all, if they were smart, they would’ve won, right?

        I’m a two-time Bernie voter. If there was a real primary in '24, I probably would’ve been a three-time Bernie voter. I marched for him back when my leg was good. I donated. I hammered on doors.

        People are not as left as you think they fucking are.

        • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
          21·
          7 days ago

          Your comment is strange and contradictory, which I have suspicion of on what your trying to do. But I will bite.

          Dem primaries-- much of whom are full of blue MAGA and rigged by DNC elites-- selecting a non-popular candidate who will do the bidding of corporate donors will not win the actual election. Bernie is popular when polled on national level (by the way, in a hypothetical election between Trump and Bernie, showed the latter would be way ahead). But if polled among the elites and blue MAGA such as yourself? Of course he is not popular.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            7 days ago

            Dem primaries-- much of whom are full of blue MAGA and rigged by DNC elites-- selecting a non-popular candidate who will do the bidding of corporate donors will not win the actual election.

            Rigged how?

            Bernie is popular when polled on national level (by the way, in a hypothetical election between Trump and Bernie, showed the latter would be way ahead).

            Okay, so it should have been easy for him to get out the vote in the primaries, right?

            But if polled among the elites and blue MAGA such as yourself? Of course he is not popular.

            I literally pointed out that I’m a Bernie supporter. Did you forget to read the comment before replying or something?

            Would you like to remind me what Bernie’s weakest demographics were in the Dem primaries, in 2016 and 2020?