• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    24 days ago

    People really dont understand how languages work. Even brother and man can be gender neutral. If you say “man, whyd you do that” thats gender neutral. Same with dude and guy.

  • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
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    24 days ago

    It’s not a problem until someone tells you to not refer to them as a dude or a guy. If you continue, you are just an asshole 🤷🏻

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      24 days ago

      Or, just maybe. The person remarking is an asshole. It gives off the same energy as correcting grammar when talking with someone.

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        24 days ago

        It’s just as much not a problem for them to be offended by it as it is for you to choose your words better. Knowing that you made a choice to offend so yeah, you’re the jerk. You’re honestly making a lot more of it if you went all this distance to think you’re the one hard done by just cuz you refuse to memorize some words. That’s snowflake thinking.

        Only bad actors looking for the drama go for the path of most resistance.

    • MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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      24 days ago

      Sure, but we’re talking plurals of strangers atm. “Please don’t call me a guy going forward” is a different conversation than “what you just said is stupid, mean, and wrong”.

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          24 days ago

          No it really isn’t. One clearly and directly communicates a need. The other response shies away from that and insults without explaining why.

          • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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            24 days ago

            Drag… Supposes, that’s how it would look without applying much empathy. But if someone gets called something and says it’s bad, it must be clear they don’t like it. If they’re angry, that’s a kind of upset. It means they could be hurting. Drag would understand no matter how someone phrased it.

            • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml
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              24 days ago

              If the other party is 3, then yes. From adults I expect ability to differentiate between stating a need and throwing a tantrum.

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                24 days ago

                Drag is very forgiving when a trans person is upset they’ve been misgendered. Growing up as the wrong gender is traumatic. It can literally give you cPTSD and personality disorders. Being triggered because you feel like you’re back in that situation is a completely understandable response. Drag uses gender neutral “guys”, but acknowledges that it’s a dangerous practice, and if you hurt someone then you need to own it. They don’t owe anyone politeness in that moment. If drag didn’t like that responsibility, drag wouldn’t take risks with other people’s mental health.

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                  23 days ago

                  Out of curiosity, have your therapist told you ever about the dangers of using third person pronoun when expressing yourself? Like it strengthens the disassociation between you and your body and mind, etc. etc? If not, please change them.

                  This is coming from a genuine place, I’m not trying to be sarcastic or mean.

  • HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee
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    24 days ago

    At some point you need to take responsibility for your insecurities and work on moving past them rather then expecting society to placate you. Languages evolve, so if your end goal is gender equality (or even if its not), the best thing you can do is accept that words are context sensative and “dude” and “guys” can be neutral terms.

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      24 days ago

      Alternatively, if a woman asks you not to call her a guy or a dude, respect that.

    • Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee
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      24 days ago

      I’m so fucking sick of the neg culture that pretends to be politically correct. There’s malicious sexism and loads of assholes out there for sure but some feel emboldened to attack anyone they construe to be saying what they think is wrong regardless of context.

      Someone will always be offended by absolutely fucking everything. They can go fuck themselves.

  • samus12345@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    Shouldn’t it have been “How many guys have you fucked?” He didn’t say “you dudes.”