Nothing. This is the SAME SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN 1993, except it was a conservative PM then (Mulroney). The last generation of them that cared to be a leader for all sides. Harper was outright an enemy to decency.
Nowadays, the notion of self-sacrifice for utilitarian ethics is a rarified trait; and utterly non-existent on the right of the aisle. Run the thought experiment for yourself and simulate a republican or a conservative candidate doing the right thing. It’s good for a laugh.
Mulroney was simply unpopular, especially about the GST. People fucking HATE Trudeau, a deep visceral feeling he’s engendered across the country, and it’s not recent. (It’s hard to take anyone seriously that calls Harper a threat to decency)
Trudeau is poison to the Liberal brand. In Canada we don’t vote parties in, we vote parties (and leaders) out. Trudeau has been PM for just over 9 years, the 7th longest serving PM.
What will happen is we’ll vote the Cons in, they’ll make hilariously huge mistakes like they always do, get 1-2 terms, then get voted out in favour of another Liberal government. If you go back throughout our history we have almost exactly 2-1 Lib - Con governments by time in office.
Poilievre is an anti-abortion career politician who is going to try to ape what Trump did, only every time he speaks he loses votes. He has a whiny voice and is widely referred to as ‘Milhouse’ because, well, he looks like Milhouse. He’s not a strong-man and his public speaking is embarrassing. He’ll brown nose Trump as much as he can and absolutely eat it when Trumps policies fuck our economy.
In Australia, it feels like the inverse. We generally have conservative governments until they do something particularly abhorrent and lose government for a term.
We’re presently enjoying our once-in-a-decade progressive government term and sadly I feel they have squandered their term. They seem determined to ignore the core responsibility of making life better for everyone and instead waste political capital on fanciful notions like banning sheep exports and frivolous changes to the constitution.
It wasn’t so bad when we had Liberals and less neo-Liberals. We’ve also had Liberal governments that don’t fix as many of the Con failures of the past as they used to.
Also our medical is mostly provincial so as they flip Con we are losing more and more Universal healthcare. If you can believe it, we’re actually going towards more of the American model each election.
I hope your progressives turn it around a little, because it looks like young males all around the world are leaning fascist.
So there’s no one-study, one-link, etc, for this. North America has a rise in people joining (and creating) fascist groups - in addition if you look at any Conservative parties voters, they’re predominantly male. Here in Canada we have this problem
A lot of this is via Russia, see this fun set of numbers.
Also with the ‘Convoy’ which our incoming Conservative Prime Minister marched with.
Worldwide if you look at anywhere that is moving very openly towards fascism, (France, Germany, etc) you’ll find the voters of said parties trend male, and young. I haven’t saved any links, but someone here might have saved some.
If you don’t mind my postulating; the why is that men have been taught for ages now that they’re the top, they’re the default. Room temperature is what a (middle aged, white) man finds comfortable; drugs weren’t tested for women for quite some time; the main ‘character’ is media is statistically almost always male:
So then we add in that men are shown that they are more violent towards their partners than women are, and they see people of colour, or women, having programs that help them try to equal out numbers vs. their white/male counterparts, yet their lives were often set to fail by end-stage capitalisms myriad issues such as lack of affordable housing, worsening job conditions, and sociopathic CEO’s who will literally get people killed just to make line go up. Then they hear that they actually have it the easiest of all sets of people. So they are trying to match in their head how these two things can both be true; how are they suffering all this negativity and the best-off? They need something to talk about, how they are also discriminated against, so they find anything they can and use it as a wedge issue. Men commit suicide more? Must be because of women. And which ideology says that men are the be-all-, end-all, strongest and best? Fascism. Which promises easy answers to difficult problems? Fascism. Who lets you belong to the in-group, and punishes the out-group? Fascism. So for young men who are never shown other options, and the fact that youtube/social media literally guides young men towards these things (because it causes engagement to go up, you see), means they are more likely to ascribe to them. Socialism requires sacrifice and working as a team, something men have been taught to avoid; it’s all about being the rugged individual, the maverick, the solo whatever (at least in my experience and understanding of recent history).
To sum, fascism offers easy answers and the ability to be the in-crowd, while giving you an enemy that is both weak (and thus beatable), but strong (so you don’t look like a pussy.)
We just had the worst decade of governing our country ever had and we are spiralling out of control in debt, cost of living and hope. It’s amazing how much damage one man can do in a decade.
we are spiralling out of control in debt, cost of living and hope
Yeah that’s centrist-conservative degradation. We’ve been experiencing that in the United States since the mid-70s. Just wait until they begin deleting your social programs like they have been doing here.
To my knowledge there have been people here on Lemmy stating that it would be best if he stepped down. Oh gentle Canadian neighbors:
Whaaat is happening up there, my dudes?
Nothing. This is the SAME SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN 1993, except it was a conservative PM then (Mulroney). The last generation of them that cared to be a leader for all sides. Harper was outright an enemy to decency.
Nowadays, the notion of self-sacrifice for utilitarian ethics is a rarified trait; and utterly non-existent on the right of the aisle. Run the thought experiment for yourself and simulate a republican or a conservative candidate doing the right thing. It’s good for a laugh.
Mulroney was simply unpopular, especially about the GST. People fucking HATE Trudeau, a deep visceral feeling he’s engendered across the country, and it’s not recent. (It’s hard to take anyone seriously that calls Harper a threat to decency)
Trudeau is poison to the Liberal brand. In Canada we don’t vote parties in, we vote parties (and leaders) out. Trudeau has been PM for just over 9 years, the 7th longest serving PM.
What will happen is we’ll vote the Cons in, they’ll make hilariously huge mistakes like they always do, get 1-2 terms, then get voted out in favour of another Liberal government. If you go back throughout our history we have almost exactly 2-1 Lib - Con governments by time in office.
Poilievre is an anti-abortion career politician who is going to try to ape what Trump did, only every time he speaks he loses votes. He has a whiny voice and is widely referred to as ‘Milhouse’ because, well, he looks like Milhouse. He’s not a strong-man and his public speaking is embarrassing. He’ll brown nose Trump as much as he can and absolutely eat it when Trumps policies fuck our economy.
This doesn’t sound terrible?
In Australia, it feels like the inverse. We generally have conservative governments until they do something particularly abhorrent and lose government for a term.
We’re presently enjoying our once-in-a-decade progressive government term and sadly I feel they have squandered their term. They seem determined to ignore the core responsibility of making life better for everyone and instead waste political capital on fanciful notions like banning sheep exports and frivolous changes to the constitution.
It wasn’t so bad when we had Liberals and less neo-Liberals. We’ve also had Liberal governments that don’t fix as many of the Con failures of the past as they used to.
Also our medical is mostly provincial so as they flip Con we are losing more and more Universal healthcare. If you can believe it, we’re actually going towards more of the American model each election.
I hope your progressives turn it around a little, because it looks like young males all around the world are leaning fascist.
Any reliable source/study on the global male fascist thing? I see it repeated a lot and would love details on how true it might be and why
So there’s no one-study, one-link, etc, for this. North America has a rise in people joining (and creating) fascist groups - in addition if you look at any Conservative parties voters, they’re predominantly male. Here in Canada we have this problem
A lot of this is via Russia, see this fun set of numbers.
Also with the ‘Convoy’ which our incoming Conservative Prime Minister marched with.
Worldwide if you look at anywhere that is moving very openly towards fascism, (France, Germany, etc) you’ll find the voters of said parties trend male, and young. I haven’t saved any links, but someone here might have saved some.
If you don’t mind my postulating; the why is that men have been taught for ages now that they’re the top, they’re the default. Room temperature is what a (middle aged, white) man finds comfortable; drugs weren’t tested for women for quite some time; the main ‘character’ is media is statistically almost always male:
So then we add in that men are shown that they are more violent towards their partners than women are, and they see people of colour, or women, having programs that help them try to equal out numbers vs. their white/male counterparts, yet their lives were often set to fail by end-stage capitalisms myriad issues such as lack of affordable housing, worsening job conditions, and sociopathic CEO’s who will literally get people killed just to make line go up. Then they hear that they actually have it the easiest of all sets of people. So they are trying to match in their head how these two things can both be true; how are they suffering all this negativity and the best-off? They need something to talk about, how they are also discriminated against, so they find anything they can and use it as a wedge issue. Men commit suicide more? Must be because of women. And which ideology says that men are the be-all-, end-all, strongest and best? Fascism. Which promises easy answers to difficult problems? Fascism. Who lets you belong to the in-group, and punishes the out-group? Fascism. So for young men who are never shown other options, and the fact that youtube/social media literally guides young men towards these things (because it causes engagement to go up, you see), means they are more likely to ascribe to them. Socialism requires sacrifice and working as a team, something men have been taught to avoid; it’s all about being the rugged individual, the maverick, the solo whatever (at least in my experience and understanding of recent history).
To sum, fascism offers easy answers and the ability to be the in-crowd, while giving you an enemy that is both weak (and thus beatable), but strong (so you don’t look like a pussy.)
Thanks for this!
No worries, if you do find the specific links keep them, I regret not bookmarking them.
Good luck in the coming fasc-y times.
We just had the worst decade of governing our country ever had and we are spiralling out of control in debt, cost of living and hope. It’s amazing how much damage one man can do in a decade.
Yeah that’s centrist-conservative degradation. We’ve been experiencing that in the United States since the mid-70s. Just wait until they begin deleting your social programs like they have been doing here.
It was a direct result of far left government policies.
The social safety nets were a result of far left government policies. Read a history book sometime.
We’re having two different conversations.