• shadowfax13@lemmy.mlOP
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    14 days ago

    thanks, much appreciated. It’s very stark contrast to the real life discussions where they are mostly furious at harris & dnc. most of the time we are infact discussing that sanders, aoc and warren should create a new party as dnc has become beyond repair. they can definitely crowdfund the support like in 2016.

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      14 days ago

      unfortunately neither Sanders, AOC, nor Warren are real solutions and never will be the solution. They mostly pay lip service to progressive causes but then actually support atrocities like the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia (in Sanders’ case).

      their job seems to be to “capture” progressive support and then endorce the reactionary candidates they actually plan on pushing. And even if they were to come to power, the best case is a renewal of capitalism so that it may exist another year/decade/century

      as the DNC has become beyond repair

      that is the case with the whole of the USA, it’s beyond repair and in dire need of abolition if humanity is to have a future. Bourgeois “democracy” is inherently designed to halt real progress and to preserve the private (not personal!) property of the rich and the economic system that makes it possible in the first place (capitalism).

      One viable future would be a socialist council democracy as one of the few true solutions

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        14 days ago

        that’s the dream. but for now leaders like aoc, sanders are acceptable. someone like harris is not who just want to be slightly left of trump.