Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn’t find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it’s fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.
Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won’t mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.
Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)
same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there’s no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.
one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.
No autodesk, but if you have the budget you can use Siemens NX (version 12 or before) on Linux. They have install media for SUSE or RHEL. I found it more performant on Linux than the W10 install
6 years ago Proton was a thing. It worked out of the box with Steam games like it does today. Yes not everything was gold rated on protondb but it worked fine. I’ve been gaming on Linux since 2018.
Proton came into existence in the later part of 2018, I jumped to linux about half a year before proton came out, so probably closer to 7 years now.
Did you write “thinkering” on purpose? Because it’s fantastic.
should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support
Nah, there’s no need to wait.
I’d recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn’t support dual-boot you’ll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.
need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support
The longer you wait, the more distros we’ll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions
Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.
I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it’s a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)
So, why wait for windows 10 EOL? If you are already mostly on Linux and are planning on getting rid of the last bits anyway? If you really need to you can always reinstall windows on a second disk or in a VM later on if you really need to - no real need to preemptively do that if you dont plan on using it.
I have windows on another disk bcs I still need windows for some stuff ATM and win10 eol would be the prefect time and bcs I have affinity 6 month subscription that is pushing me back from wiping windows I can also get more disk space with a raid config + I don’t want win11
I was in the same boat as you but I just kept using Linux more and more. I left my Adobe subscription with a bit of time left because I wanted to get better with darktable before the time ran out in case I needed Adobe but I ended up not
even if i didnt wanna use Linux i wouldn’t buy adobe
That’s good
true i heard of their evil practice
While it’s a pain to setup, Affinity does work in Bottles and a specific build of Wine. Not easy to do, but it’s possible.
I might try this again fully in bottles on second thought, i will try testing if i ever switch to windows till November.
Here’s the guide I used: https://www.standingpad.org/posts/2024/06/affinity-on-linux/
The only thing I did differently was I used this yaml to make the container: https://gist.github.com/gnat/8b69cf49b68e2349afe5e8cb5af49bf8
There’s a bit of tinkering afterwards, but it runs.
I wrote a guide myself aswell:
https://rentry.co/affinitylinux
This is not a ad
I tried it but it was buggy
Pretty stable from my testing, outside of a few crashes when I was asking too much of it.
That said Inkscape/gimp/kirta are good alternatives if you are in the market.
inkscape i used to used for svg,krita for art and stuff,and gimp its kinda annoying to use only using it for a few seconds and yep there is no ctrl + z undo (i hope gimp v3 fixes this) + I kinda like free software bcs i dont need to pay for it.
Why wait? There’s no need for Windows, unless you’re running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.
i already use linux as a dualbooted os, Ngl i agree but i got affinity i need to wait for it to expire (it was 6 mounths)
I use Photopea on the browser when I need something that the Gimp can’t do.
Basically there’s your answer. Hang onto Windows until then, move your workload over as much as possible, and then jump ship.
Yep this is my plan
I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.
Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.
My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.
oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall
As a counterpoint, I’ve had Ubuntu’s installer and grub’s updater overwrite and break Windows’ boot files several times, but never had the opposite happen (I’ve had both destroy themselves, though). Thankfully, I know how to rebuild the necessary parts of a Windows install, so it’s never been a catastrophe, but it’s irritating to see what’s always been the source of the problems I’ve had be held up as infallible. Possibly this is a problem unique to Ubuntu - I’m happy to blame Canonical - so maybe it could be entirely sidestepped with other distros.
You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a “game” itself and DU ET NAO!
…no really. Do it.
prob 4-months/1 year
No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That’s what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.
As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can’t play some games, but I’ve filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.
But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it’s just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It’s definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.
if you only play mostly indie,singleplayer they should work fine in my opinion and apps find the alterntives?
I tried dual-booting Win10 and Arch for a few months. It was problematic.
I had to set the clock every time I switched because one expected the hardware clock to use UTC time and the other expected local time.
NTFS on Linux is not good. The driver works, but there are fundamental differences between NTFS and Unix-like filesystems that makes cooperation difficult (e.g. NTFS uses ACLs instead of the user/group ownership and user/group/others permissions of Unix). Windows also places additional restrictions on the filesystem (e.g. NTFS supports file names that contain
:, Windows doesn’t) that can completely bork the volume if violated.But the worst offender, and what made me nuke Windows entirely, is Windows Update. It completely fucked up the boot partition, deleted the bootloader, then died and left Windows unusable.
These are all issues that can be solved, if you know how to solve them. My advice is to go cold turkey and delete Windows from your life.
Ohh yeah the time thing is soo annoying but solvable and idk if windows updates delete bootloaders on separate disks
When I ran dual boot I kept windows on a separate disk to my mint install. I unplugged the mint disk when ever I wanted to boot windows.
Still had the clock issue of course.
I think a two disk dual boot is safe. I’ve had that setup for a while and Windows hasn’t broken anything yet (though I only use it maybe once a month).
Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you’ll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It’s a matter of if it’s worth it or not. I personally don’t see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you’re paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.
I already have a second physical disk but windows 11 only being supported and maybe ltsc in October 2025 it might be more important for linux, I can agree not everyone can use it but paired with a lightweight wm it can be good.
I already have a second physical disk but windows 11 only being supported
The drive doesn’t work under Linux?
No it runs fine I can access the drive via ntfs-3g
I think you didn’t understand me. I said that if you want to have both Linux and Windows on one computer without a WM, install the two operation systems on different physical drives because having them on one drive may result in Windows fully deleting your Linux system and data.
Jump ship. Just know, windows will pull you back in, especially if you work in corporate/office work. I was doing my work from home on Linux for two years straight, then my work mandated windows 11 for everyone. It’s been a nightmare. I just want my xfce!
Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!
Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets…
I chose the dual boot option when I decided to switch a year ago, and I found myself rarely using Windows eventhough it is installed on my laptop. I might have only boot it up 3-4 times since the switch, for GFN not working properly with ALT when running through browser. The dual boot just make my disk partition needlessly complicated, and I’m going to reinstall it yet again, without Windows.
I feel you. I installed dual boot and basically just never bothered to boot Windows again because the stuff I need works.
I find my self only using windows for roblox and use affinity for 6 months till March 2025 (and roblox is easy to quit it has some issues with mods and stuff)
dual boot, you never know when will you be forced to use windows again
- and for those who suggest VM, there are situations where its a hassle to make thing work or its impossible all together ( updating bios is one of those )
If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.
