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linucs@lemmy.ml to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 9 months ago

Is there an historical reason why female formal dresses have a huge variety of styles compared to male ones where the only acceptable style is jacket with pants?

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Is there an historical reason why female formal dresses have a huge variety of styles compared to male ones where the only acceptable style is jacket with pants?

linucs@lemmy.ml to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml · 9 months ago
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  • shameless@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    100% men have denied men from having cute outfits for too long! Be the change you want to see in the world

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    We ladies must look desirable; the fashion styles changed to accentuate my hips and my tits, my baby making parts. That’s all I’m here to do anyways. Historically, prly religion upholding the patriarch; same difference. Hide them elbows and ankles!

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      As a man, I wish clothes would make me feel desirable. I have asked my girlfriend which clothes she would like to see me in, but she says it’s not about the clothes. That it doesn’t matter. It’s more about what I do. So I just dress in plain, comfortable, practical clothes which makes me, well, practical. Useful. I often wish I had options to just be desired for my body, without the pressure to achieve this or that to be desirable. It’s a source of sadness for me.

      • greedytacothief@lemmy.world
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        I mean, looking like you know what you’re doing, looking confident doesn’t mean you have to dress plain.

        Also I am sure gym bros will complement you on your body. Kind of like how as a straight man I only get compliments on my facial hair from other men. Look for validation from your friends not randos

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      9 months ago

      We ladies must look desirable; the fashion styles changed to accentuate my hips and my tits, my baby making parts.

      Bring back ostentatious codpieces for the dudes

      • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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        Bring back ostentatious codpieces for the dudes

        They never went away in my house.

    • MostRandomGuy@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Will you marry me?

  • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    The Great Male Renunciation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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      TIL that there’s a name for it.

      • pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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        TIL indeed.

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          How have I never heard of this, too? Because I’ve definitely complained about this before lol.

    • TheChemist [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I shall allow my male OCs to wear bright colors. Pink. Bluish Spruce, even Apple Green.

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      To save some people a minute, from Wikipedia:

      The Great Male Renunciation is the historical phenomenon at the end of the 18th century in which wealthy Western men stopped using bright colours, elaborate shapes and variety in their dress, which were left to women’s clothing. Instead, men concentrated on minute differences of cut, and the quality of the plain cloth. Coined by British psychologist John Flügel in 1930, it is considered a major turning point in the history of clothing in which the men relinquished their claim to adornment and beauty.

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    Behind the Bastards literally has an episode about this.

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      Great episode. Came here to post this.

      Here’s an alt link https://podcastaddict.com/behind-the-bastards/episode/179384649

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation

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