• Deestan@lemmy.world
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    The authoritarian left and the liberal left have so little in common that it’s frustrating the term “left” encompasses both.

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    You can argue with communists, you can’t argue with fanboys or those who accepted Marx as the one and true Messiah and tell you to read ze book instead of providing any points. But that’s applicable to pretty much every topic (oop bad, for example).

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        Sorry to disappoint, but I’m not exactly into Marxism-Leninism, I’m more of an anarchist myself (the idea of dictatorship, be it of a working class or anyone else, doesn’t sit right with me). And ml was chosen at the time just due to it being hosted by the Lemmy devs

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          The Dictatorship of the Proletariat isn’t a literal dictatorship, but an establishment of Proletarian supremacy over Capital. It’s still democratic.

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    Yes, being crushed by the weight of your own poor arguments, comprehension, and philosophy is probably quite an accurate way to describe arguing against a communist.

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    “No matter how hard I try I cannot defeat the immortal science of Marxism Leninism!”

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    One must find the anti-communist happy in their prison/punishment for being despotic, because they continue to repeat the same hypothetical thing everytime?

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    Nah, it’s not really a communist issue. It’s tankie, the one that faithful to that few authoritarian country like a little lap dog they are, regardless of nuance. They only see one side having issue but refuse to see why socialism didn’t work all the time. It’s always capitalism bad socialism good, never a balance of both.

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      What’s a “tankie,” in your eyes, and how are they meaningfully distinct from Communists? Marxists defend AES, can acknowledge the failures and struggles of AES while praising the myriad successes as well, it’s liberals that always refuse to have a nuanced take on AES.

      Secondly, there is no such thing as a “balance of both” Capitalism and Socialism. Either the Proletariat is in charge or the Bourgeoisie are in charge, and as such there will never be a balance.

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        Not every communist throats the cocks of dictators like putin, Stalin, Mao, and the kims, so that’s one meaningful distinction.

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        Ohh, fine then. From your opinion i concluded all communist is just a bunch of extremist like you i guess, because no nuance allowed. It’s all black and white.

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        Ironic that you’re using the comic about using bad faith debates in order to shut down this thread complaining about bad faith debates on ML.

        Ever heard of horseshoe theory?

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            I recently saw a video on it, saying that it’s true, but in tge context of US politics
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWy8EEqXbBg

            As an outsider looking at America, the vid makes sense. I saw some comments on the net say that RW Trump was the first US president to go to Nk and meet Kim rather than some LW one. I don’t know whether the meetings were useful tho

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            It’s never occurred to the “very reasonable centrist” neoliberal free market extremist warmongers that THEY are the insane radicals