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      Idk when Israel came into existence by destroying Palestine, they definitely started a lot. All of the problems? No but they started a lot.

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        Palestine has never existed as a state. It was supposed to be created for the first time alongside the state of Israel in 1948, but the Arabs rejected the UN transition plan and went to war against the newly formed Israel instead of accepting independence.

        Please learn a little history before commenting on it.

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          You’re so full of shit. Palestine was a real place that real people lived in for countless years. They were ripped from their homes while being killed and raped in order to make a new home of israel. I took a class on this so dont act like im not informed while you spew propaganda out your fingers.

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            If Palestine was a country, what date was it founded? What was the system of government? Who was the first head of state? Who was the most recent head of state prior to 1948?

            You may need to check your notes from the one class you took.

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                Quite the stretch. Palestine was a region of the British Empire, prior to that a region of the Ottoman Empire, and so on. The region was always part of an established state going all the way back to the Kingdom of Israel in the 10th century BCE.

                The existence of a unique Palestinian national identity emerged probably in the 20th century. Possibly 19th.

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                  The people that lived in that region certainly didn’t think of themselves as British or Ottomans, and neither did the British or the Ottomans. That’s just colonialism.

                  This revisionist “Palestine isn’t real” nonsense is indistinguishable from the justification for the Holocaust. Jews were seen as parasites without their own nation-state, rootless cosmopolitans and not really people, and so they had to be exterminated. Now the fascists are coming for Palestinians, and with the same fucking justifications as always.

                  Stop spewing revisionist fascist history. This was the lie that was used to justify the Nakba and it’s the lie they’re using now to justify turning Gaza into a death camp.

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                    I should clarify. I never said that Palestine was/is not real. Palestine was a region made of primarily of Jews and Arabs. They thought of themselves as Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs. The Arabs of the region certainly considered themselves a part of the Pan-Arab identity.