"A new trend has emerged in American politics: The very youngest voters — 18-to-24-year-olds — say they’re more conservative than the cohort that’s just older,” according to the latest Harvard Youth Poll.

“This new trend — which is true for both genders and emerged only in the last few years — is especially pronounced with men.”

  • ThrowawayOnLemmy@lemmy.world
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    If you didn’t know this, you haven’t been paying attention. Right wing voices have gone hard at the young male demographic for years now. They’ve targeted kids in online games and social media, and groomed them for years all with the goal of shaping their world view and by extension, their politics. Lonely young guys looking at people who present themselves as successful, rich, and rolling in women, not giving a fuck about anyone but themselves, telling young boys that they just need to be more sexist and racist and that’ll get them laid and make them feel fulfilled. Telling them that the world is wrong and they’re not. It’s been extremely successful, and all wide out in the open. That’s why voices like Andrew Tate made it into the public zeitgeist.

    Frankly, it’s an absolute failing on all of the left for being completely unable or unwilling to see this or show an alternative world view. Too often, when I hear people talk about young white men’s issues, I get crocodile tears from everyone who can’t separate them from actual right wing provocateurs.

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      I may get downvoted for this but I tend to downvote comments that lay everything right wing on boomers/olds. I’m nearly one myself, and most of my RL friends are boomer age lefties. Is Vance old? Is Loomer a boomer? Maga Mike, MTG, Boebert, at most Gen X, are leading the charge, and all the Patriot Front dudes are millennials and gen Z. If it were all boomers only we could just wait for them to die off, but it isn’t.

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        3 months ago

        I didn’t know I accused boomers, or older people specifically, of anything. Did I do that? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean?

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      Don’t forget Gamergate.

      I think the reason the left doesn’t hit back as hard is because it feels sort of strange to do so. It’s difficult to acknowledge at the emotional level that we’re really back to just fighting for the most fundamental basics of liberty, equality and pursuit of happiness. Especially given how the right co-opted talking about freedom in general a number of years ago. Do we really need to rewind our level of discourse all the way back to the 18th century though?

      Well, if those are the principles that are under attack, perhaps we do.

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      It doesn’t help that men literally cannot complain about their issues online without being called an incel. It’s so overused that it’s lost all meaning. The left needs to do better for young men than “Shut up women have it worse”

      *Obviously women DO have it worse, we just need to work on the messaging.

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        Obviously women DO have it worse

        In what ways? That’s important.

        For example, we’re WAY better at killing ourselves.

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          In what ways? That’s important.

          That’s the wrong question, and that’s why they’re all turning to right wing but jobs.

          Boy kid gets online and says, I have X problem…he’s immediately downvoted to oblivion and a deluge of “but women have it worse.”

          But there’s one dude in that noise that says, I have that problem too…have you heard of Andrew Tate (or whoever the hot grifter is).

          We need to take these kids seriously if you want them to be well rounded adults. Otherwise they’re just going to keep leaking out to the extremists.