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  • dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml
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    regarding its UX, nothing close exists; when it comes to converting normies, so you have someone to actually talk to, then there are no alternatives. that’s a pretty shitty state of affairs for something that shoulda been solved a long time ago.

    lesson learned, I guess, don’t put all your eggs in one basket and have multiple fallback solutions. I’ve begrudingly moved to Signal and I’m cursing it out at least once per day, can’t believe the navel-gazing, self-righteous cluelessness behind it; but that’s the best there is at the moment. it’s beyond shitty that we’re having trouble achieving what we had in like 2012 by way of XMPP and friends, let alone surpassing it.

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      3 months ago

      XMPP is still around although there’s a constant campaign trying to claim it’s gone.

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        3 months ago

        because things moved forward in the last decade or so and it’s not viable. the same way matrix and element and those ridiculous things aren’t viable and never will be. can you use it today? absolutely. can you convert normies to it and make it an actual widely used comms platform? no. fucking. way.

        this is coming from a guy running their own prosody instance and utilizing rocketchat on two separate client instances. yeah, I know how to set it up and deploy it; but the amount of absolutely credible complaints I get from normies forced to use it staggering.

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          3 months ago

          XMPP would be viable in theory but for whatever reason no one wants to build a modern client out of it.

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              3 months ago

              modern as in stable, good UX, plug-and-play, and supporting features a modern chat client is expected to have with zero hassle.

              the stuff needed to convince your mom to install it.