It’s me again with another question for recommendation 🙈 This time I am searching for a new Email-Provider:

Currently I am using mailbox.org (privacy-friendly provider based in Germany). Since my subscription is comming to an end there, I tought about switching to proton mail-plus. What I like about them is, that they have an easy way of creating alias-emails and also support the option to use your own domain.

But maybe you gals and guys have another great provider which offers good features for a good price.

Also: I dont need Cloud-Storage or anything like that, so just mail is fine.

Thx in regards :)

  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 months ago

    they have an easy way of creating alias-emails

    With mailbox.org and other normal mail providers you should just be able to set a catch-all address, then you don’t have to create aliases at all, just type “whatever-you-want@mydomain.com

    If an email provider charges you more to create ‘aliases’ run far away and pick something else.

    I wouldn’t switch to Proton personally, they require that you use their own apps or use an IMAP bridge which doesn’t work on Android/iOS. Their ecosystem feels very restrictive.

    I don’t see the point of an encrypted email provider like Proton, since 99% of the emails we all receive aren’t encrypted anyways, and sending encrypted emails only easily works to other proton mail users.

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      2 months ago

      oh ok, I have not tried that yet. I have only set up one address which I use yo send and receive from.

      about the encryption: I thought the point with e2ee encryption on proton is mainly, that the mails are stored encrypted one their servers so they can not read them or hand them out to anyone.

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        2 months ago

        Basically all email is E2EE already since SSL/TLS is usually used for transport, even gmail and similar. But encrypted at rest in theory would help with stopping people from reading emails off the server.

        You also have to trust that Proton truly doesn’t have your keys to decrypt, but I imagine they do since you just login with a username/password combo and that’s enough to decrypt the emails.

        Although I don’t think it matters that much, my email is basically receiving notifications from services I use and occasional emails with a friend about planning a trip or something like that, nothing that particularly needs to be super private, just using a mail provider that isn’t actively scraping my data for ads (aka; gmail) is enough for me.

        For private communications I would use something more suited to that, like any of the reasonable E2EE chat apps.

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    2 months ago

    Just a reminder: with Proton you can’t use IMAP for your email client, you either need their mail client (mobile) or bridge app (desktop).

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      2 months ago

      While technically true, bridge is ultimately an IMAP server you run yourself … and they do have good reasons for this design.

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          Imap and end to end encryption are not possible at the same time.

          Bridge exposes an IMAP interface but encrypts everything as Proton would, had you used the web client.

          It solves a technical limitation.

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    I don’t think the email alias thing comes with Mail Plus, it’s part of Proton Pass. You either need to get Unlimited which includes all of their products or pair mail plus with the paid version of Pass. There’s a chance I’m wrong because I have Unlimited and haven’t really explored it, but look into it before you commit.

  • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org
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    2 months ago

    Was there any controversy with Proton email? I remember hearing everyone shitting on it ywars ago. Did they do something to piss everyone off, but later fixed it?

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      2 months ago

      Fair warning though, using a service like addy.io with randomly generated emails can go bad if they ever shutdown, you’ll be left with tons of accounts on email addresses that no longer exist.

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    2 months ago

    Somehow I always end up hating Proton. I was using TOR Browser to create an account and they wouldn’t let me. I had to give either another email or my phone number, and I’m not willing to do either. I even tried creating a throwaway with mailbox.org (works using TOR) and sending the confirmation email there but it never arrived, so I gave up on Proton.

    I also tried Tuta and they wouldn’t let me create an account at all using TOR. So eventually I’m sticking with mailbox.org

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      2 months ago

      This also provides you with more freedom as in freedom as you aren’t forced to use their Clients/Apps.

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        Yeah. One of the major reasons I never plan to use Proton or Tutanota is that none of my email apps will work and I will rely on whatever interface they provide.