Again, on paper. The moment you put together a communist government with humans involved, those same communist champions will give in greed and selfishness and “everyone is equal, except for me cause I help run things so I should get a bit extra and so should my family and relatives and friends” and so on. Again, communism is great on paper but has it ever worked as it was intended? Ever?
The moment you put together a communist government with humans involved, those same communist champions will give in greed and selfishness
Did you even read what I said? Of course some people will give in to greed, that’s why the system has to be formed in a way to not reward it, which capitalism does the opposite of. Greed and selfishness exist everywhere, the only difference is do you reward it or limt it’s influence.
“everyone is equal, except for me cause I help run things so I should get a bit extra and so should my family and relatives and friends” and so on.
And this doesn’t exist under capitalism? That’s literally the basis of the exploitation of labour value…the bourgeois feel entitled to part of (most of) the workers production.
Again, communism is great on paper but has it ever worked as it was intended? Ever?
Communism itself has not, and can not exist while the global dominant order is a capitalist one.
The most we have experienced so far is different levels of socialism with different characteristics based on the historical and material realities within those countries.
Now when these socialist states have made clear their goal of communism (China, Vietnam, Cuba) then they are colloquially “communist countries” and are led by communists, but they are still in different stages of socialism out of necessity, and yes, I would say it works well in these countries, particularly better than capitalism. Though obviously no country or person is perfect.
Again, on paper. The moment you put together a communist government with humans involved, those same communist champions will give in greed and selfishness and “everyone is equal, except for me cause I help run things so I should get a bit extra and so should my family and relatives and friends” and so on. Again, communism is great on paper but has it ever worked as it was intended? Ever?
Did you even read what I said? Of course some people will give in to greed, that’s why the system has to be formed in a way to not reward it, which capitalism does the opposite of. Greed and selfishness exist everywhere, the only difference is do you reward it or limt it’s influence.
And this doesn’t exist under capitalism? That’s literally the basis of the exploitation of labour value…the bourgeois feel entitled to part of (most of) the workers production.
Communism itself has not, and can not exist while the global dominant order is a capitalist one.
The most we have experienced so far is different levels of socialism with different characteristics based on the historical and material realities within those countries.
Now when these socialist states have made clear their goal of communism (China, Vietnam, Cuba) then they are colloquially “communist countries” and are led by communists, but they are still in different stages of socialism out of necessity, and yes, I would say it works well in these countries, particularly better than capitalism. Though obviously no country or person is perfect.