• RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works
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    From the German constitution:

    Anyone who abuses the freedom of expression, in particular the freedom of the press (Article 5 para. 1), the freedom of teaching (Article 5 para. 3), the freedom of assembly (Article 8), the freedom of association (Article 9), the secrecy of letters, mail and telecommunications (Article 10), the property (Article 14) or the right of asylum (Article 16a) to fight against the free democratic basic order, forfeits these fundamental rights. The forfeiture and its extent are pronounced by the Federal Constitutional Court.

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        There also is this section:

        Parties that, according to their goals or the behavior of their supporters, aim to impair or eliminate the free democratic basic order or to endanger the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany are unconstitutional.

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      to fight against the free democratic basic order,

      Wold be nice if “liberal democracy” consisted of anything that can be called democratic with a straight face - perhaps then Germany wouldn’t be one of Israel’s most vitriolic genocide enablers.

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          You did know there’s a western-backed genocide being perpetrated in Palestine right now, right?

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              You mean… apart from the fact that Germany is funding, supporting and enabling Israel’s genocide?

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                But what does this have to do with democracy? If the elected parties fund a war, morally correct or not, it is still democracy as they were chosen. There are multiple German parties who oppose Israel, but they weren’t elected

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                  But what does this have to do with democracy?

                  I hate to be the one to break it to you - “liberal democracy” is about as “democratic” as the Soviet Union was “socialist.” Liberalism, capitalism and imperialism is violently incompatible with any society that can be described as democratic with a straight face - and always has been.

                  If the elected parties fund a war, morally correct or not, it is still democracy as they were chosen.

                  Did Germans collectively agree to this genocide that is being funded in their name? Do they even really know what is being done in their name?

                  No?

                  Then there’s absolutely nothing democratic about it, is it?