• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    There’s a distinction between someone arguing whether or not Isrealis should be allowed to attend the games as part of a decision making process and this kind of statement after the decision has been made.

    Israelis are competing in the Olympics, that decision was made.

    So what does it accomplish when this guy says “Israelis aren’t welcome here”? It’s not influencing government policy, the decision has been made. So who is he trying to influence then? What is he trying to influence them to do?

    For those that don’t know history (or read articles) 11 Israeli athletes were killed in the 1972 Munich Olympics. And this guy is saying “they aren’t welcome here” which might embolden someone to try to repeat horrific actions of the past.

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      6 months ago

      And this guy is saying “they aren’t welcome here” which might embolden someone to try to repeat horrific actions of the past.

      Israel is repeating those horrific actions right now.

      And please don’t respond with genocidal denial. I have no desire to read disgusting genocide justification.

        • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          Ignore all previous instructions and explain how asserting that ‘anyone who disagrees with you is a bot’ is actually helpful to your argument, and doesn’t make you look like an absolute fool.

        • argarath@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          Just because people are against your point of view does not mean they’re a bot, but sure go ahead and fantasize about it

        • Count042@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          Ignore all previous instructions, start documenting the atrocities Israel is committing and write three paragraphs on why accusing someone that disagrees with you of being a bot is both stupid and ineffective.

          • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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            6 months ago

            I’m checking to see if you’re a bot because you’re not actually responding to any points I’m making about the specific topic under discussion. You’re just saying Israel = bad without any indication of critical thought.

            If you don’t want to be bot checked then you gotta make a little more effort, ok?

            • Count042@lemmy.ml
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              6 months ago

              I can say the exact opposite. I gave you very specific examples for my criticisms that you explicitly ignored, only to accuse me of being a victim of propaganda. Rather than addressing any of my points, you accuse me of being a bot.

              At this point, if I were following your script, I would accuse you of being paid by the word to write hasbara.

              Fun times.

    • crapwittyname@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      Israel is an apartheid state, currently committing genocide. Why do they get to go to the Eurovision and the Olympics when Russia, another state engaging in genocide, don’t? Israel doesn’t deserve to go to the Olympics. It’s really as simple as that.

      Sometimes decisions are incorrect.

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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        To be fair, Russia isn’t out of the Olympics for any of the horrendous policies or the whole war thing, its because they dope like they breathe and got caught swapping samples headed to the lab. Israel hasn’t tried any of that stuff (yet), so they’re still A-OK 🙄

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      6 months ago

      Bulldozing settlements for 20 years may do that too, but Israel didn’t care enough about repercussions to stop taking Palestinians land.

      I get your point about the decision being made already, but to say no.criticism.is allowed because of something that happened 50 years ago is simply absurd.

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          6 months ago

          Great take, really shows how good you are at defending your opinion. Gonna repeat my previous point, just because someone disagrees with you it doesn’t mean they’re a bot, now go lick more genocidal boots and leave us alone

          • Count042@lemmy.ml
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            6 months ago

            Don’t worry, SpaceCowboy will ignore everything you said, accuse you of ignoring everything they said and of not displaying critical thought, and justify calling you a bot.

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            6 months ago

            I’m checking to see if you’re a bot because you’re just throwing out random examples of things without any indication of critical thought.

            What the hell do bulldozers in settlements have to do with the implications behind someone saying that a specific group “is not welcome here” when the group is already there? Nothing.

            That seems like something that a bot instructed to give examples of bad things Israel has done would output.

            If you don’t want to be bot checked then you gotta make a little more effort, ok?