There needs to be an open convention. NO one voted for Harris as President, assuming the job is hers is usurping the democratic election process. I could have sworn we were told we need to elect a democrat to preserve democracy
The party candidate selection process has nothing to do with Democracy.
The parties themselves have nothing to do with democracy. There’s nothing in the constitution about Democrats or Republicans, or their parties.
All the parties are is a group of people that agree to put one name forward for their candidate. How they choose the candidate is entirely up to them, it didn’t used to be done via state wide primaries, it used to just be a bunch of old dudes at a convention picking someone.
The democracy part is that anyone is allowed to put their name on the ballot for president if they meet the basic criteria, usually a minimum number of voter signatures and a filing fee. This is done for each state they want their name to be on the ballot for.
You are legally correct, and morally wrong. If we had ranked choice voting it would be an entirely different situation.
As long as we are trapped in a two party system this is entirely unacceptable and frankly just cause for revolution.
I find it both hilarious and infuriating how supporters of the Democratic establishment make this argument when it suits them, then turn around and chastise third party voters. If our only real choice is to vote for one party or the other, then we either have control over who gets nominated or we live in a thinly veiled oligarchy.
They aren’t morally wrong. Just because something is a fact that they’re stating doesn’t mean they agree with it. Those are the rules of the game and they’re simply stating them.
In the context they are offering a legalistic justification to a moral issue. The Democrats are not the party of democracy if they don’t, at a minimum, have an open convention.
Mate, there isn’t enough time or words to even delve into this with you, but that’s not what morality is. Whether you agree with the current rules and legal system or not is not part of your morals when you’re simply stating the options legally.
This is not the time for electoral reform. This is the time for voting. The only thing that will keep the orange sludge out of the White House at this point is unity.
After this dumpster fire is over, please advocate for reform.
You miss the part where many democrats are so terrified of the image that has been painted of Trump that they would vote for a resurrected Hitler if they were told he was wearing a blue button.
That’s not what I said, and don’t put words in my mouth.
It’s not what he says he’ll do, it’s what he says he is. He is a petty dictator who can’t stomach dissent or disagreement who will happily use anyone to further his own ends, and will happily take whatever interpretation of reality puts him on top, even if it means intentionally misreading and misinterpreting things.
But I don’t have to tell you that. You seem to be quite well-versed in that technique yourself.
One of these two will have power in November. That is reality. The democrats are the lesser of two evils. People living in reality don’t have the luxury of choosing non-existent options, and have to pick from what is possible.
There needs to be an open convention. NO one voted for Harris as President, assuming the job is hers is usurping the democratic election process. I could have sworn we were told we need to elect a democrat to preserve democracy
The party candidate selection process has nothing to do with Democracy.
The parties themselves have nothing to do with democracy. There’s nothing in the constitution about Democrats or Republicans, or their parties.
All the parties are is a group of people that agree to put one name forward for their candidate. How they choose the candidate is entirely up to them, it didn’t used to be done via state wide primaries, it used to just be a bunch of old dudes at a convention picking someone.
The democracy part is that anyone is allowed to put their name on the ballot for president if they meet the basic criteria, usually a minimum number of voter signatures and a filing fee. This is done for each state they want their name to be on the ballot for.
You are legally correct, and morally wrong. If we had ranked choice voting it would be an entirely different situation.
As long as we are trapped in a two party system this is entirely unacceptable and frankly just cause for revolution.
I find it both hilarious and infuriating how supporters of the Democratic establishment make this argument when it suits them, then turn around and chastise third party voters. If our only real choice is to vote for one party or the other, then we either have control over who gets nominated or we live in a thinly veiled oligarchy.
They aren’t morally wrong. Just because something is a fact that they’re stating doesn’t mean they agree with it. Those are the rules of the game and they’re simply stating them.
In the context they are offering a legalistic justification to a moral issue. The Democrats are not the party of democracy if they don’t, at a minimum, have an open convention.
Mate, there isn’t enough time or words to even delve into this with you, but that’s not what morality is. Whether you agree with the current rules and legal system or not is not part of your morals when you’re simply stating the options legally.
This is not the time for electoral reform. This is the time for voting. The only thing that will keep the orange sludge out of the White House at this point is unity.
After this dumpster fire is over, please advocate for reform.
You miss the part where many democrats are so terrified of the image that has been painted of Trump that they would vote for a resurrected Hitler if they were told he was wearing a blue button.
Democrats didn’t paint that image. Trump did.
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
How interesting. So when trump tells you he will fight for democracy, you believe him. What a confusing world you must be living in.
That’s not what I said, and don’t put words in my mouth.
It’s not what he says he’ll do, it’s what he says he is. He is a petty dictator who can’t stomach dissent or disagreement who will happily use anyone to further his own ends, and will happily take whatever interpretation of reality puts him on top, even if it means intentionally misreading and misinterpreting things.
But I don’t have to tell you that. You seem to be quite well-versed in that technique yourself.
The Democrats are telling me that they are an oligarchy that only cares about keeping power.
One of these two will have power in November. That is reality. The democrats are the lesser of two evils. People living in reality don’t have the luxury of choosing non-existent options, and have to pick from what is possible.