Dr Hilary Caldwell’s new book Slutdom looks at how women navigate sex and shame, and at all ages. She shares what she’s learned as both a sex worker and as an academic.
You see an issue crop up in many areas where something is generally found distasteful by society at large, so it is made illegal by various means, leading to greater harm than if it was just legal and regulated. You will not eliminate demand, therefore you will not eliminate those attempting to supply the demand. If sex work was legalized and regulated, it would be much safer for the workers, customers, and even those who choose not to engage with it all. The current legal environment creates space for trafficking/slavery, public health concerns, and a lack of physical safety for all. While a legal and regulated industry won’t completely remove the black market, it would greatly reduce it and the harms it causes. Is there still demand for dusty garage tattoos? Yes, but that is certainly not the majority of the market.
I think Prostitution and Rape are two thinks that we left behind for the most part. That’s a good thing.
It is quite interesting that you believe prostitution and rape have been “left behind” in any appreciable way. It is also quite interesting that you equate the two. I’m supposed to be just agreeing and disengaging, but that is quite a fascinating mindset.
I love to see anything pushing toward destroying this stigma. Sex is natural and wonderful, and sex workers are workers providing a valuable service.
Valuable is not the same as ethical
There’s nothing unethical about a sapient, consenting adult providing sexual services for money for/with another sapient, consenting adult.
i thought this was about sexy mummified people
Yummy mummy Khalida
Mummy didn’t mean you have you! You were an accident!
please mark as NSFW🤗marking your posts means to repect fellow users in their choice for disabling/hiding NSFW related postsby respecting each other’s choices we’ll be able to garner more respect from the mainstream public and potentially gain new users to fediverse alternatives
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I was in the wrong for this decision
thanks to @sushibowl@feddit.nl, @Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and @agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works down in the comment chain, I’ll know what to do in similar future situationsThis is the exact headline of an established newspaper. Wherever you’re allowed to have your phone or for reading at work then this should be just as fine.
Please be consience on what NSFW should be and don’t call for censorship in its name.
Ironically fitting to the article itself.
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apologies but I don’t understand,
- marking a post as NSFW would mean that users who’ve enabled to view/blur NSFW posts would have their choices be respected
the post is still viewable
maybe the norm has changed for what’s NSFW and what’s not NSFW?
edit:
after thinking about this some more I feel like I need more thoughts from people to figure out what’s the right decision, trying to figure out content moderation is hard as I’m not perfect at this (I’m just a volunteer with no formal training)- just trying to respect people’s autonomy at the end of the day
I consider this perfectly safe for work. It’s just a newspaper article. The topic of discussion being sexuality doesn’t make it nsfw. The line is crossed when the purpose of the material is to titillate.
ahhh ok honestly can understand that
thank you for commenting!
The line is crossed when the purpose of the material is to titillate.
this’ll help me figure out what does and doesn’t cross the line🤗
I appreciate that! And moderating topics like these is frankly nearly impossible as it’s a clash of science and “moral”.
My gist is simple: NSFW is literally: “would you mind a coworker seeing you looking at this?”. After all marking something as NSFW is a form of self censorship: “I recommend you not looking at this at work!”.
From this I deduce two things: a) text should have a higher barrier for NSFW than images. Other people need to actively read what you’re looking at and it’s way harder to claim that text is not workplace appropriate compared to a picture of primary sedual organs. b) What’s actually depicted and said? The Wikipedia page about human reproduction falls at least at my workplace not under NSFW although a penis is clearly depicted.
Now to the OP: it’s an article discussion the struggle of sex workers (well promotion of a book about it but same same). The issue here is that marking articles like these as NSFW perpetuates the core issue of the content discussed: that this is a woman problem that should be talked about in private.
I guess that’s where the majority of downvotes come from as well: “this should not be viewed in the workplace” is a catastrophic signal in this context for the message.
Now to your point of respectdirectly: OP doesn’t disrespect the people who filter out NSFW content because this article should be visible and even discussed in professional contexts if we as human society want to progress. It’s source is a newspaper, it’s content socially relevant and aimed at (provocatively!) educating and it’s topic is sadly very relevant.
All of this is my personal opinion of course but I wanted to leave you with more than just a two word comment!
The issue here is that marking articles like these as NSFW perpetuates the core issue of the content discussed: that this is a woman problem that should be talked about in private.
I guess that’s where the majority of downvotes come from as well: “this should not be viewed in the workplace” is a catastrophic signal in this context for the message.
yeaaa I can totally see where my request would be problematic to say the least
All of this is my personal opinion of course but I wanted to leave you with more than just a two word comment!
Yup and Thank you!🤗
- all the points you made felt solid and made sense to me
based on your and other commentors I feel like I have a better grasp on future moderation decisions
for today, I def fucked up so this is a learning momement for me
again thank you for commenting!🤗🌻
Oh that’s not a fuckup in my book!
You’re already doing what a good moderator separates you one from an average one: engage, explain and adapt!
ehhh I dunno
feels like I just made a fool out of myself in public😬
You’re already doing what a good moderator separates you one from an average one: engage, explain and adapt!
much appreciated🤗
You’re owning a mistake in public, and explaining that and why you understand you were wrong. That’s not making a fool of yourself, that’s publicly growing as a person.
Nah, you’re fine. You show qualities that a lot of moderators are lacking and are rightfully criticised for. You engage in discussion, are open to get your mind changed but don’t blindly follow anyone’s suggestion without wrapping your own mind around it.
I would gladly follow your lead if I would still be in the business of moderating.
It’s a learning process that will never stop, and everyone does mistakes. In moderation quite often because you have to make a lot of decisions in a short time.
What seperates a good mod is that they would acknowledge those mistakes and try to make it better next time.
I’m from Europe and I had to adjust my understanding what NSFW is to the US market. I would set the bar way lower myself in the beginning.
Fundamentally I guess there is a disconnect here around what “safe for work” means, and what the “not safe for work” function is for.
To me, unless you work in a primary school or something a journalistic article from a reputable newspaper that discusses (but does not explicitly depict) sex or sex work wouldn’t be considered inappropriate content for someone to be reading. It’s journalism, it’s intent is not to be titillating or lewd . If this was “my life as a sex worker” published on someone’s onlyfans then that’s probably different; different context and different intent.
Imo, the “NSFW” flag should be reserved for the “would it be ok if I scrolled past this on the bus with a child sitting next to me” - explicit or graphic violence or sex.
Mastodon does this better - beyond the NSFW flag, you can add arbitrary content warning flags, so if you think your content might offend or upset, you can highlight that fact so people can choose to skip it.
Just my $0.02. I’m from a European background so I guess attitudes and norms about sex might be a bit different compared to the US.
As stated, images are reasonable to blur, because having them in your screen would Not be Safe For Work. Text generally doesn’t really make sense to blur, especially an article published by a major news source. If it could be seen in print sitting on a lobby coffee table, it probably doesn’t qualify as NSFW.
As stated, images are reasonable to blur, because having them in your screen would Not be Safe For Work. Text generally doesn’t really make sense to blur, especially an article published by a major news source. If it could be seen in print sitting on a lobby coffee table, it probably doesn’t qualify as NSFW.
yup, I agree with all of your points
Text generally doesn’t really make sense to blur, especially an article published by a major news source.
also while rereading this I realized that I’m not really sure what the mainstream concensus decision is when it comes to NSFW text-based content
- I know Fifty Shades was referenced/used in an episode of The Office
so maybe it’s fine?🤔? not too sure
