Gaming? Fair point. Creative Apps? There are alternatives, even if they are not as good as your Adobe closed source stuff. The change to Linux is worth it in my opinion. Foobar2000? A music player? That is a reason to stick to Windows? Really?
Often for professional users, that makes it a non-starter already. Nobody who is making good money from Photoshop has ever said “I just use gimp instead, it works for me”.
GIMP is not the only thing that exists (look at Krita). My point is, sacrifices can be made. Even professionals can do it. The question is, if it gets the job done, if someone wants to learn new things, change habits, change workflow. One could keep an old pc with old applications like Photoshop, if you can’t import your files to other systems and need it for work or is required by professional work.
Either you make changes, or you will keep being a slave of Adobe and Microsoft forever.
My point is, sacrifices can be made. Even professionals can do it.
You mean like, they risk losing their job, reducing their profits significantly during the training period, and then likely there are a few algorithms that don’t exist in Krita, and most are slower with less optimization. If Adobe releases a new killer feature those professionals who transitioned to OSS are fucked, and also they sacrifice a significant of time on additional training for using Linux, replacing their professional NVIDIA GPUs, tweaks wayland, then they spend time on fixing boot problems, their printers don’t work anymore, they have compatibility issues with everything Adobe and MS Office, lose business competitions just because their files can’t be opened by Windows, etc. etc. I’ll trust you Linux-is-easy people after you converted a few Windows / Apple / Adobe-dependent enterprise businesses.
Adobe never released a killer feature professionals missed out on, that they got fucked. It’s a hallucination of people who spend their entire life under Adobe. Look if you are not willing doing these changes, fine. It’s not my life. So just keep getting fed and keep being a slave.
And I did not say everyone has to change. If you had read the rest of my reply, then you would know. For people who literally cannot make the switch (which is their own fault, because they are the ones who put them in the position of being a slave), in example for professionals job is in danger of not able to produce the content, they can still keep an alternative PC only for these specific tasks. And they can switch to Linux for all other things, and put the rails for the future.
The easiest and laziest way is to just keep doing this. Most people aren’t in that situation anyway. Most people just search for reasons not to switch, without realizing it.
I’ll trust you Linux-is-easy people after you converted a few Windows / Apple / Adobe-dependent enterprise businesses.
Maybe you should read carefully. Nobody said Linux-is-easy in my reply. But with that attitude you will never be free.
I’m sure it’s not possible for everyone - but I essentially did this some years back - though more with Premiere than Photoshop - and therefore more Cinelerra/Kdenlive than Gimp/Krita.
I ran a dual boot system from about 2008 until about 2015. If it could be done in Linux/FOSS, it was. If it couldn’t, it was done in Windows/Adobe software.
I was self-employed, though I often did subcontracting work for a handful of media/umbrella organisations - so sometimes I had to use Premiere or Sony Vegas to carry on half-done projects I was handed.
Bear in mind this was when you bought Adobe software and didn’t rent it - and you could also keep running an older version for years.
Anyway, over time I used the Windows partition less and less, until I got rid of it entirely when I got a new computer.
I had to work a bit harder one year, and I did miss out on a few projects - but mostly, I could do everything I could do previously, but it took a bit longer for a while until I adjusted to a different workflow.
After that, you’re just saying “That’s a £2000 job”, “That’s a £200 job”, and meeting a deadline. Nobody really cares if it took 7 minutes longer to do, and I saved a lot of time not using Windows any more.
Editing (and other design stuff) is a far smaller part of my overall work these days, but I still do a good chunk of projects over the year, and I’ve been 100% Linux for almost 10 years. No regrets.
I run foobar2000 to transcode music, apply ReplayGain and edit tags. Except I do all of that on Linux through Wine, I have no clue why someone needs Windows for foobar
I mean, Foobar2000 is pretty cool when we only had winamp5 and windows media player, and it was great for huge media libraries. But what the dude showed he used Foobar2000 for… who does constantly convert media files, or reconfigure their media player?
Unless it’s for games that use shitty anticheat solutions probably not a good reason anymore due to the SteamDeck, a LOT of games do work and it’s possible to check before hand via ProtonDB.
So it was a fair point 5 years ago, now most AAA games, including VR games, do work without tinkering.
That’s disingenius towards people who want to play and have problems with it. Lot of popular games, such as some modern Call of Duty games, Fortnite, League of Legends (recently), Destiny 2, PUBG, Siege just to name a few. These are some of the most played games on PC and its even more of a problem if you can’t play with your friends (I know what I’m talking about, because I’m on Linux since 2008). And that’s not the only problem. Games are also on other platforms than Steam, which adds to the complexity too or do not work, especially on Deck.
And that is only the gaming side itself. There are other things attached to gaming which are not fully resolved as a 1:1 replacement without hassle, like Discord in example, which is widely used by players and is popular. And other things like driver support from Nvidia (which gets better now, but Wayland is still not perfectly supported) with feature parity over their software. Let’s not forget about everything else attached to it like modding, which is a big part for some.
Gaming on Linux is still a huge problem for some. There is no denying it. But like with the other things listed, its some sacrifice I personally going to make and accept limitations. And you should not hide that, otherwise you may disappoint people.
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Gaming? Fair point. Creative Apps? There are alternatives, even if they are not as good as your Adobe closed source stuff. The change to Linux is worth it in my opinion. Foobar2000? A music player? That is a reason to stick to Windows? Really?
Often for professional users, that makes it a non-starter already. Nobody who is making good money from Photoshop has ever said “I just use gimp instead, it works for me”.
GIMP is not the only thing that exists (look at Krita). My point is, sacrifices can be made. Even professionals can do it. The question is, if it gets the job done, if someone wants to learn new things, change habits, change workflow. One could keep an old pc with old applications like Photoshop, if you can’t import your files to other systems and need it for work or is required by professional work.
Either you make changes, or you will keep being a slave of Adobe and Microsoft forever.
You mean like, they risk losing their job, reducing their profits significantly during the training period, and then likely there are a few algorithms that don’t exist in Krita, and most are slower with less optimization. If Adobe releases a new killer feature those professionals who transitioned to OSS are fucked, and also they sacrifice a significant of time on additional training for using Linux, replacing their professional NVIDIA GPUs, tweaks wayland, then they spend time on fixing boot problems, their printers don’t work anymore, they have compatibility issues with everything Adobe and MS Office, lose business competitions just because their files can’t be opened by Windows, etc. etc. I’ll trust you Linux-is-easy people after you converted a few Windows / Apple / Adobe-dependent enterprise businesses.
Adobe never released a killer feature professionals missed out on, that they got fucked. It’s a hallucination of people who spend their entire life under Adobe. Look if you are not willing doing these changes, fine. It’s not my life. So just keep getting fed and keep being a slave.
And I did not say everyone has to change. If you had read the rest of my reply, then you would know. For people who literally cannot make the switch (which is their own fault, because they are the ones who put them in the position of being a slave), in example for professionals job is in danger of not able to produce the content, they can still keep an alternative PC only for these specific tasks. And they can switch to Linux for all other things, and put the rails for the future.
The easiest and laziest way is to just keep doing this. Most people aren’t in that situation anyway. Most people just search for reasons not to switch, without realizing it.
Maybe you should read carefully. Nobody said Linux-is-easy in my reply. But with that attitude you will never be free.
I’m sure it’s not possible for everyone - but I essentially did this some years back - though more with Premiere than Photoshop - and therefore more Cinelerra/Kdenlive than Gimp/Krita.
I ran a dual boot system from about 2008 until about 2015. If it could be done in Linux/FOSS, it was. If it couldn’t, it was done in Windows/Adobe software.
I was self-employed, though I often did subcontracting work for a handful of media/umbrella organisations - so sometimes I had to use Premiere or Sony Vegas to carry on half-done projects I was handed.
Bear in mind this was when you bought Adobe software and didn’t rent it - and you could also keep running an older version for years.
Anyway, over time I used the Windows partition less and less, until I got rid of it entirely when I got a new computer.
I had to work a bit harder one year, and I did miss out on a few projects - but mostly, I could do everything I could do previously, but it took a bit longer for a while until I adjusted to a different workflow.
After that, you’re just saying “That’s a £2000 job”, “That’s a £200 job”, and meeting a deadline. Nobody really cares if it took 7 minutes longer to do, and I saved a lot of time not using Windows any more.
Editing (and other design stuff) is a far smaller part of my overall work these days, but I still do a good chunk of projects over the year, and I’ve been 100% Linux for almost 10 years. No regrets.
I run foobar2000 to transcode music, apply ReplayGain and edit tags. Except I do all of that on Linux through Wine, I have no clue why someone needs Windows for foobar
I mean, Foobar2000 is pretty cool when we only had winamp5 and windows media player, and it was great for huge media libraries. But what the dude showed he used Foobar2000 for… who does constantly convert media files, or reconfigure their media player?
Unless it’s for games that use shitty anticheat solutions probably not a good reason anymore due to the SteamDeck, a LOT of games do work and it’s possible to check before hand via ProtonDB.
So it was a fair point 5 years ago, now most AAA games, including VR games, do work without tinkering.
That’s disingenius towards people who want to play and have problems with it. Lot of popular games, such as some modern Call of Duty games, Fortnite, League of Legends (recently), Destiny 2, PUBG, Siege just to name a few. These are some of the most played games on PC and its even more of a problem if you can’t play with your friends (I know what I’m talking about, because I’m on Linux since 2008). And that’s not the only problem. Games are also on other platforms than Steam, which adds to the complexity too or do not work, especially on Deck.
And that is only the gaming side itself. There are other things attached to gaming which are not fully resolved as a 1:1 replacement without hassle, like Discord in example, which is widely used by players and is popular. And other things like driver support from Nvidia (which gets better now, but Wayland is still not perfectly supported) with feature parity over their software. Let’s not forget about everything else attached to it like modding, which is a big part for some.
Gaming on Linux is still a huge problem for some. There is no denying it. But like with the other things listed, its some sacrifice I personally going to make and accept limitations. And you should not hide that, otherwise you may disappoint people.