• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Really? Seems to me like they were trying to capture kiev and depose the government and quickly set up one friendly to them. You think that’s happened?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      One has to be gullible beyond belief to believe in the premise that Russia was trying to capture Kiev with 100k troops. In fact, we now have admissions from Ukrainians themselves that Russian aim was to get Ukraine to accept negotiations in Istanbul. This was almost achieved, but the west sabotaged them and here we are now. The terms Ukraine would have received at the time were immeasurably better than anything it can possibly hope for today.

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        6 months ago

        It makes no sense as a diversion. Way too much effort for that. They thought they’d face little resistance, similar to Crimea.

        Here’s a game theory analysis on the causes of the war. https://youtu.be/pBwT-5z9R5A

        Of course Russia’s aims were to get Ukraine to accept their terms in Istanbul, namely that they get to keep what they’ve stolen. Fundamentally the same offer in the headline here.

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          6 months ago

          It makes perfect sense as a diversion, and plenty of military experts explained how this diversion pinned large parts of Ukrainian army in the west while Russia secured positions in the east.

          Here’s a game theory analysis on the causes of the war. https://youtu.be/pBwT-5z9R5A

          The fact that you get your ideas about the war from these sorts of youtube channels as opposed to people with actual military experience explains why you believe in nonsensical things.

          Of course Russia’s aims were to get Ukraine to accept their terms in Istanbul, namely that they get to keep what they’ve stolen. Fundamentally the same offer in the headline here.

          The offer in Istanbul was completely different. It required Ukraine to implement Minsk agreements which both Ukraine and the west claimed to support, and to stay neutral. Now, Ukraine is losing large parts of its territory, and the deal will only get worse. At least learn a bit about the subject you’re attempting to opine on.