Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to "immediately" order a ceasefire in Ukraine and start negotiations if Kyiv began withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected what he called an ultimatum by Putin to surrender more territory.
This deal is probably the last chance to save anything of Ukraine, and it will naturally be rejected because the west wants to fight this war to the last Ukrainian. People cheering this on really need to ask themselves what this was all for. Ukraine is in a far worse situation today than it was two years ago, and it will be in a worse situation with each and every day that passes. Western support peaked during the disastrous summer offensive last year, and Ukraine is now running out of trained and motivated soldiers. It’s obvious to anyone with a functioning brain what the end result of all this will be.
You think Russia will be able to take kiev now? Now that their military is badly mauled, they don’t have the element of surprise, and Ukraine has much more equipment and training than when the war began?
I think Russia would prefer not take Kiev nor western Ukraine in general: it’s full of Nazis who don’t want them there, and therefore virtually impossible to hold. It would become Russia’s Afghanistan II. I think they know better than fall for that US trap again.
Russia will very obviously be able to take Kiev and anything else it wants when Ukrainian army inevitably collapses. The reality is that the Ukraine was in its best position to make any positive change on the battlefront during the disastrous offensive last summer. That’s when the west cobbled all the support it could give, and Ukraine still had a large and motivated army. Western support is now drying up, meanwhile Ukrainian regime is running out of people to throw into the meat grinder.
and Ukraine has much more equipment and training than when the war began?
Literally the opposite is the case as even western media openly admits.
Badly mauled is a weird way to say 15% larger than before the war started
Larger in soldiers, not in weaponry. And that was achieved through conscription, which means pulling young people in a rapidly aging society away from some of the most productive years of their lives. And of course many of those young people will sadly return to civilian life injured or not at all.
We’ll see where things go now that Republicans have stopped blocking aid to Ukraine. Having the main supplier of military aid blocked blocked by legislative constipation does tend to make the front lines harder for Ukraine, yes.
Yes, larger in weaponry as well. It’s also completely false that Russian army is growing through conscription. Please don’t spread blatant misinformation here.
We’ll see where things go now that Republicans have stopped blocking aid to Ukraine. Having the main supplier of military aid blocked blocked by legislative constipation does tend to make the front lines harder for Ukraine, yes.
This deal is probably the last chance to save anything of Ukraine, and it will naturally be rejected because the west wants to fight this war to the last Ukrainian. People cheering this on really need to ask themselves what this was all for. Ukraine is in a far worse situation today than it was two years ago, and it will be in a worse situation with each and every day that passes. Western support peaked during the disastrous summer offensive last year, and Ukraine is now running out of trained and motivated soldiers. It’s obvious to anyone with a functioning brain what the end result of all this will be.
You think Russia will be able to take kiev now? Now that their military is badly mauled, they don’t have the element of surprise, and Ukraine has much more equipment and training than when the war began?
I think Russia would prefer not take Kiev nor western Ukraine in general: it’s full of Nazis who don’t want them there, and therefore virtually impossible to hold. It would become Russia’s Afghanistan II. I think they know better than fall for that US trap again.
Badly mauled is a weird way to say 15% larger than before the war started https://www.businessinsider.com/russias-army-15-percent-larger-when-attacked-ukraine-us-general-2024-4
Russia will very obviously be able to take Kiev and anything else it wants when Ukrainian army inevitably collapses. The reality is that the Ukraine was in its best position to make any positive change on the battlefront during the disastrous offensive last summer. That’s when the west cobbled all the support it could give, and Ukraine still had a large and motivated army. Western support is now drying up, meanwhile Ukrainian regime is running out of people to throw into the meat grinder.
Literally the opposite is the case as even western media openly admits.
Larger in soldiers, not in weaponry. And that was achieved through conscription, which means pulling young people in a rapidly aging society away from some of the most productive years of their lives. And of course many of those young people will sadly return to civilian life injured or not at all.
We’ll see where things go now that Republicans have stopped blocking aid to Ukraine. Having the main supplier of military aid blocked blocked by legislative constipation does tend to make the front lines harder for Ukraine, yes.
Yes, larger in weaponry as well. It’s also completely false that Russian army is growing through conscription. Please don’t spread blatant misinformation here.
The circus with blocking the budget was just that. The real problem US has is that it lacks the industrial base to produce weapons at the necessary rate. Please educate yourself on the subject instead of regurgitating nonsense https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine