Russian President Vladimir Putin promised Friday to "immediately" order a ceasefire in Ukraine and start negotiations if Kyiv began withdrawing troops from the four regions annexed by Moscow in 2022 and renounced plans to join NATO. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected what he called an ultimatum by Putin to surrender more territory.
Best deal they’re likely to get, so of course the coup government is going to wipe their ass with it and choose Berlin 1945. I’m sure all the conscripts and their families will love that. I hope I’m wrong, but we’ve stopped them from surrendering before. Thinking in Blackrock terms, why let them stop now when land prices have so much lower to fall?
Yes, the opposition to ww1-style meat grinders fought for the benefit of military and real estate companies is a typical giveaway. You on the other hand would be calling people pinkos for protesting the Vietnam war, and Saddam Lovers 30 years after that.
Oh yea you’re really “opposing oppression” by giving unlimited weapons to famously corrupt self avowed neo nazis because they happen to be opposed to your geopolitical ally.
The really impressive cognitive dissonance is describing literally anything America has done in the last 80 years as “opposing oppression”.
You guys are the ones supporting press ganging 75 year olds and dropping them into the meat grinder so a bunch of pentagon consultants dont have to admit theyve been lying their ass off about every aspect of the war for years. How’s that for oppression.
Also love to accuse the other person of trying to use “might makes right” arguments while actively trying to build a military alliance to surround Russia with nukes while calling them the aggressor.
Reporter: [REDACTED] Reason: Spreading disinformation (Zelenskyy, the Jew, is not a Nazi)
This is like saying racism is over because Obama. If the Gaza genocide has taught us anything, it’s that there are fascist Jews.
At the most generous, one might argue that Zelenskyy is an actor who played a TV president, and then, in Forrest Gump style, found himself president in real life, and got steamrolled by the imperial core compradors & fascists who are really in charge of the country.
Why because they’re the only one not suggesting “Russia should abaondon their two year long successful military operataion because that’s what I, a whiny American liberal, want.”
It has been very successful from a high-level strategic point of view. It caused Western powers to use a number of their financial nuclear options, to little to no effect. It has strained military productive capacity in those same powers, which they’re currently trying to turn into a new wave of militarization, but this runs counter to the fact that they are now heavily deindustrialized and the same forces that deindustrialized their countries are now in charge. The Russian economy has actually improved, particularly with investments in productive capacity. Russia has effectively annexed the Donbas region and is destroying UA’s military capacity, largely based on Soviet stockpiles, fascist shock troops, and increasingly weary conscripts.
It’s not Russia’s original strategic goal but it’s going pretty well for them.
Best deal they’re likely to get, so of course the coup government is going to wipe their ass with it and choose Berlin 1945. I’m sure all the conscripts and their families will love that. I hope I’m wrong, but we’ve stopped them from surrendering before. Thinking in Blackrock terms, why let them stop now when land prices have so much lower to fall?
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Yes, the opposition to ww1-style meat grinders fought for the benefit of military and real estate companies is a typical giveaway. You on the other hand would be calling people pinkos for protesting the Vietnam war, and Saddam Lovers 30 years after that.
I always wonder if these people realize they would be violently opposed to the civil rights movement I’d they were alive then.
That’s some impressive cognitive dissonance, to say opposing oppression and “might makes right” is equivalent to opposing the civil rights movement
Oh yea you’re really “opposing oppression” by giving unlimited weapons to famously corrupt self avowed neo nazis because they happen to be opposed to your geopolitical ally. The really impressive cognitive dissonance is describing literally anything America has done in the last 80 years as “opposing oppression”.
You guys are the ones supporting press ganging 75 year olds and dropping them into the meat grinder so a bunch of pentagon consultants dont have to admit theyve been lying their ass off about every aspect of the war for years. How’s that for oppression.
Also love to accuse the other person of trying to use “might makes right” arguments while actively trying to build a military alliance to surround Russia with nukes while calling them the aggressor.
Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Spreading disinformation (Zelenskyy, the Jew, is not a Nazi)
This is like saying racism is over because Obama. If the Gaza genocide has taught us anything, it’s that there are fascist Jews.
At the most generous, one might argue that Zelenskyy is an actor who played a TV president, and then, in Forrest Gump style, found himself president in real life, and got steamrolled by the imperial core compradors & fascists who are really in charge of the country.
Just read the comment report you made, were you born such a little worm or does it take considerable practice?
Do you have anything of substance to add?
:smuglord: “you’re from Hexbear” isn’t an argument
and I didn’t have to look at yours to know you’re a lib
Why because they’re the only one not suggesting “Russia should abaondon their two year long successful military operataion because that’s what I, a whiny American liberal, want.”
“successful”
It has been very successful from a high-level strategic point of view. It caused Western powers to use a number of their financial nuclear options, to little to no effect. It has strained military productive capacity in those same powers, which they’re currently trying to turn into a new wave of militarization, but this runs counter to the fact that they are now heavily deindustrialized and the same forces that deindustrialized their countries are now in charge. The Russian economy has actually improved, particularly with investments in productive capacity. Russia has effectively annexed the Donbas region and is destroying UA’s military capacity, largely based on Soviet stockpiles, fascist shock troops, and increasingly weary conscripts.
It’s not Russia’s original strategic goal but it’s going pretty well for them.
you are looking at things from a very weird angle. none of that is remotely true
Most of what I said is just basic facts anyone can confirm, e.g. banning Russia from SWIFT.
Can you tell me what, in particular, is false?
I suppose easily verifiable reality probably would seem like a “weird angle” when you’re not used to ever seeing it.
I could but you have no intention of listening and I have no intention of wasting my time
Average imperial core lemmitor lib counterargument.