• Skepticpunk@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Hmm. Self-organizing projects whose workers work on them entirely based on their need to be done, and the results freely distributed to anyone who wants a copy?

    Literal fascism, obviously.

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      5 months ago

      Things like FOSS stuff makes you think people can organize and work together freely to achieve a common goal, and maybe anarchy could work. But then, you see a busy intersection when the traffic lights go out and you realize the general public are idiots and everything devolves into selfish chaos as you’re stuck a half mile back, as cars shoot through in no particular order and you inch closer to the madness terrified to make your left turn. I have zero trust in society without some form of rule and order.

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        5 months ago

        Think about a roundabout though in comparison, no lights or specific order, and there is a learning curve, but overall they reduce traffic better then stoplights under many conditions.

        I guess my point is sort of extrapolating that a structure/presentation also heavily influences how users perceive or use a product/idea

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        5 months ago

        The same is true when attempting to merge in the US. See Japan traffic as a counter argument.

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        5 months ago

        I find it a bit ironic that cars and traffic lights are being used as a metaphor for why anarchy won’t work. Let’s put aside that the example is of poor collective planning to build urban environments. Go to Vietnam and see how people drive without traffic lights, it’s complete madness. But it works, and in some ways it works better than what we have because the accidents are fewer and less severe while also serving more diverse modes of traffic.

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        5 months ago

        Anarchism isn’t zero organization. It’s organization for legitimate and accountable purposes.

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          That’s a pretty weak definition. “Legitimate” especially is a vacuous term, and every form of democracy ever proposed is (theoretically) “accountable”.