• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The white house won’t even admit it’s a genocide. There is no red line and never will be.

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      5 months ago

      Well, no western country has either.

      Here is the list in case anyone is interested:

      1. Bolivia
      2. Brazil
      3. Colombia
      4. Egypt
      5. Jordan
      6. Malaysia
      7. Namibia
      8. Pakistan
      9. South Africa
      10. Turkey
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        I think you might be missing a few. Eg Nicaragua, Maldives.

        In terms of the West, Ireland, Spain, and Norway are probably close to openly calling it a genocide.

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          In terms of the West, Ireland, Spain, and Norway are probably close to openly calling it a genocide.

          It’s getting so bad that even white heads of state are considering calling it the genocide it is.

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            Yes, sooner or later it will be recognised by most.

            I’m old enough to remember the years after the Cambodian Genocide when the US supported the genocidal Khmer Rouge being the representatives for Cambodia at the UN, locking out the actual government of Cambodia.

            These travesties happen every so often.

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        Well, no western country has either.

        So? Does that make continuing to enable genocide right? Is that some sort of fucking justification? If not, why bring it up? “Everyone else is doing it” is another shitty excuse, and the fourth I’ve seen here on lemmy. The other three, summarized:

        “That’s the way we’ve always done it;” “We might be called antisemitic by the party that chants ‘Jews will not replace us’;” and “Trump loves it so that makes it ok.”

        This is what I mean about support for genocide on lemmy. Making shit excuses for it instead of condemning it.

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          No. Just stop. You see something you don’t like and you make up a bunch of other subtext.

          What we need LESS of is people acting like the US is the only country with power.

          My comment is a lot more educational than you want to admit. A lot of people probably needed to know that the list of countries is small. Not because “genocide good,” but because those people probably thought the list was a lot longer—and they should be concerned about it.

          I guarantee you couldn’t rattle off that list. All you know is USA USA USA USA.

          That’s the problem with social media. You’re not here to fight genocide, you’re here to abuse people, and chase them into the far right wing with your false accusations.

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            and chase them into the far right wing with your false accusations.

            If you’re going to be a trump supporter because I dared to suggest that you quit making shit excuses for genocide, you were already a trump supporter.

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                  That’s not what’s going on, and you know it. You’re just trying to make me feel bad by gaslighting me. It won’t work, because I know what you’re doing.

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                    5 months ago

                    That’s not what’s going on, and you know it.

                    “Everybody’s doing it” is an excuse.

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            5 months ago

            Please stop acting like the US isn’t the 500 lb gorilla in international politics

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              There is a significant lack of humanity among every member of UN right now. All 193 member countries should be ashamed of their silence. Don’t let 192 of them off the hook because of one.

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                  I think if we could get the low hanging fruit, the smaller countries without much in the game, to declare it genocide, that would put pressure on the larger countries.

                  Some interesting info:

                  To pass a resolution in the United Nations General Assembly, a simple majority of the members present and voting is required. With 193 member states, this would generally mean at least 97 votes in favor, assuming all members are present and voting.

                  Just 97 countries is all it would take to get that ball rolling. Screw the US, put pressure on Guatemala! Work from the bottom up.

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      Biden said there’s a red line of Rafah is invaded. So Israel does airstrikes in Rafah and says they don’t count as in invasion. Bigger airstrikes with dozens dead and charred victims. Biden says they don’t count. The red line becomes squiggles and dotted line and neither says the line was crossed.

      Today Israel sent TANKS into Rafah. Still think this doesn’t count as in invasion?