@thefrankring A lot of people in my city carry goods constantly on cargo bikes. A lot of people have taxi-bikes with which they carry people. Even though we have constant heavy rains.
Not because they’re forced to, but because we have good bike infrastructure.
They require a good electrical grid and good bike infrastructure. They are the product of good infrastructure and obviously just mentioned to show you how people can get up hills, not as an example of infrastructure.
Go talk to Norway about biking in the winter, they do it plenty with standard bikes. It’s not like once it snows roads and paths have a permanent layer of snow and ice on them, we invented this thing called a plow.
Also like 3 minutes into biking in the cold you aren’t cold anymore.
Yeah I fucking live in Canada, the roads aren’t icy unless the whole city is basically in a standstill. If the plows aren’t making it then your car isn’t fucking either genius.
Apart from snow I don’t see a problem with that kind of weather. And if it’s really cold you just need to swipe the snow once, as it’s not really snowing when there is a negative temperature.
@thefrankring @stepan So is mine and I bike everyday (because we have good bike infrastructure).
Also this video explains why riding uphill is just a matter of gearing, it doesn’t have to be physically harder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipENw5mjjSg
I don’t think biking for personal reasons to be an issue. 10-15 minutes of biking, do a bit of healthy exercise (even if uphill) and you’re done.
But asking people to work on bikes all day while carrying/delivering heavy loads and/or people in the back.
Not even talking about weather conditions: cold snowy winters, hot summers, rainy days, etc.
Sounds a bit unreasonable.
@thefrankring A lot of people in my city carry goods constantly on cargo bikes. A lot of people have taxi-bikes with which they carry people. Even though we have constant heavy rains.
Not because they’re forced to, but because we have good bike infrastructure.
How does good bike infrastructure help with carrying heavy loads uphill?
Electric bikes.
Are those part of infrastructure?
They are, you can either have your own or rent it with an app from a multitude of bike stations, this is a thing in most European cities.
They require a good electrical grid and good bike infrastructure. They are the product of good infrastructure and obviously just mentioned to show you how people can get up hills, not as an example of infrastructure.
I don’t think bike infrastructure to be that good where I live, and I don’t think it’s realistic.
Mostly because biking only happens during the summer where the weather is enjoyable outside.
Unless you purposefully use winter bikes with appropriate fat tires. It’s also very cold during the winter.
Go talk to Norway about biking in the winter, they do it plenty with standard bikes. It’s not like once it snows roads and paths have a permanent layer of snow and ice on them, we invented this thing called a plow.
Also like 3 minutes into biking in the cold you aren’t cold anymore.
Have you ever biked in an icy hill?
This happened where I live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtF_UiwPRYo
Even your amazing plow invention got messed up.
Yeah I fucking live in Canada, the roads aren’t icy unless the whole city is basically in a standstill. If the plows aren’t making it then your car isn’t fucking either genius.
plows actually remove the ice where you are? what about on dirt / gravel roads?
If your on dirt / gravel your already fucked. But also not part of the discussion about cars in cities.
Apart from snow I don’t see a problem with that kind of weather. And if it’s really cold you just need to swipe the snow once, as it’s not really snowing when there is a negative temperature.
have e-bikes not reached your part of the world yet?
I have two of these bad boys.