• Godric@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    Thank you for your well-researched and very-nuanced view, I hope you enjoy Donald “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.” Trump’s next term, 2024-20??

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      8 months ago

      How do you think we got trump in the first place? The awfulness of the republican party did not begin with him and will not end with him, but the whole time democrats have insisted that we need a republican party. It’s a tag team play that ends in fascism regardless. If trump is beaten, the next bogeyman will be there for democrats to point at and claim “we just need to beat this one guy and then we’ll work on issues you care about, we swear” yet again.

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      8 months ago

      We won’t be able to see whether or not they’ll enjoy it because like in 2016, and again in 2020- they’re going to vanish once the election is over. Regardless of who wins.

      They’ll move on to other issues that make them appear as if they care about shit. And it’ll just repeat every four years while none of them will do anything in between elections that will ever amount to any change.

      They’re as status quo as it gets.

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        8 months ago

        are… you talking about the elected officials, or the people who elect them?

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          I’m talking about the clowns that throw a temper tantrum over single-issues and shout from the mountaintops that no one should vote until they get their way.

          They don’t do shit during the in-between election years and then suddenly show up to demand a bunch of shit that they make out to be incredibly simple, but refuse to listen to people that know FAR more about it than they do.

          And when it’s all over- they reroll as victims of their own design.

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            8 months ago

            But they … DO something about this issue in-between elections. They are protesting and demanding the Biden administration to change their course. That is political action. What else are they supposed to do? Anything other than playing with the political power that’s left to them?

            Everybody against those demanding a harder approach against Netanjahu’s genocidal campaign and threatening their votes is talking about how these people have to save democracy by voting Biden regardless of what he’s doing. Well, isn’t that part of a democracy?

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              8 months ago

              Of course it’s part of a democracy. But the point everyone’s making is that it’s a very dumb thing to do because it’s likely to reduce your democratic power in the future.

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                8 months ago

                Is the president not at fault at all when he doesn’t change his course? Also a majority of people seem to favor a ceasefire. Why not at least for campaign purposes actually enforce a ceasefire from Netanyahu?

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                  That largely depends on how you ask the question. Based on this article:

                  Support a ceasefire? 64vs13%

                  Support a unilateral ceasefire (as in: what’s effectively what’s being asked for Biden to threaten to pull support for today)? 28vs44%

                  I’m sure if you as who supports ‘peace in the Middle East’ you’ll get a large majority, but that decision isn’t really on the table