On raw performance might, the M4 really does live up to Apple’s promises, should deliver. Single core is up about 20% compared to all M3 chips and more than 40% compared to M2. The generational computational leap from the previous M2 iPad Pro is at least a 42% jump on single-core and multi-core.

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      Right, like they don’t really have many AAA, the main thing holding this back is firmly the OS. I just truly don’t get it

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        Market segregation is worth it for them and the chips will be used in plenty of other hardware anyway, so dumping them in iPads doesn’t hurt, even if it’s mostly just marketing fit the products, nor does it necessitate a product change.

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          It’s a waste of computing power, though.

          I have an M1 MacBook Air and barely ever actually used the CPU. Putting these chips in iPads, which are mostly used for drawing at most, is just a waste, and one of the reasons they’re so incredibly expensive. Apple could have just kept producing M1s and putting those in current iPads.

          The reality is, there’s zero innovation in Apple products. The switch to M1 was really great, but everything since then was just “more M is more better”, utility stayed the same, price went up. Awesome.

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            It’s not a waste at all. The extra computing power allows them to get much better performance than previous model OR the same performance with half the power use. That’s pretty important in a mobile device.

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            It isn’t a waste if people buy it. Putting M4s in the iPad lets them market it to rubes who think bigger number is better without reading the spec sheet or understanding their own requirements, and if they’re already manufacturing M4s to put in other things, that’s one less production line that needs to run. Sure, they could release an iPad Cheapass Edition with an M1 in it and sell it comfortably at a profit for like $80, but the market for those is likely to be small, they won’t make nearly the overhead profit that the M4 iPad will, it requires an entire extra production line setup, and most importantly it isn’t flashy enough for Apple. They don’t want to release a product that feels cheap, even if it was specifically intended to be cheap. It’s bad brand optics and they care about that a lot. Let China sell a bunch of bootleg tablets to people that want them, they’re gonna do that anyway regardless if Apple gets in the train or not, and this way Apple isn’t tarnishing their product lineup with a PoorPad^TM

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        Perhaps with a more robust OS, such as Linux or macOS the battery and thermals would just not suffice?

        I mean, an iPad is basically a larger phone, which I think can get hot enough if pushing it to its limit

        Also I don’t think the RAM would be enough for intensive tasks, the device as it is could be pretty good for gaming though, if only the title list wouldn’t be a shit for the most part.

        But at the same time, a MacBook Air doesn’t seem much bigger compared to the biggest iPad available.

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          Isn’t iOS just about heavily modified Unix clone? My jailbroken old iPad has /var/log and misc GNU directories, as well as an Apt package manager to access Cydia repos.

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            Not a clone, its kernel was once certified UNIX. It’s just a heavily modified UNIX.

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            It is, but it would be like saying Android is just another Linux variant.

            What I want to stress in my initial comment is that the OS is so heavily modified and focused on optimization and RAM management, that it can’t hardly work for power users when multitasking is on the board.

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        just truly don’t get it

        It’s the same reason Macs don’t have touchscreens. If they can both do the same tasks, why would you buy both? And LOTS of people buy both.

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      Maybe they’ll finally announce something interesting at WWDC. I’m ready to be hurt again

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      I get it if you’re doing photo editing on an iPad. That stuff is still a CPU hog.

      That said, the M3 is on an end-of-life manufacturing process, and now that these things are getting updated every 2 years, it just makes sense to put the M3’s successor in this thing. A Pro M2 is going to stick out like a sore thumb in 2 years, and the M3s are going to start to disappear from the line up soon.

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        That’s why they also announced a multi camera synced video editing functionality on the iPad version of Final Cut Pro. In theory it can make use of the CPU with a ton of compute involved in video editing, especially with many source videos. Other than that, though, it’s hard to marry that overpowered hardware with underpowered software.