Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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    6 months ago

    Just a reminder: voting for the lesser of two evils has not ever resulted in the Democratic party stopping their march to the extreme right right alongside the GOP, to the point now that in order to vote for the Democratic nominee one must accept that their vote goes to supporting a genocide.

    “Their march to the extreme far right”

    Tell me you don’t know history, or remember even 10 years ago, without telling me you don’t know history or remember 10 years ago.

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        6 months ago

        Please compare the Democratic Party in 2024 to the following periods of the Democratic Party:

        2012

        2004

        1992

        1980

        1968

        1960

        1952

        Then, subsequently, trace their ‘march to the extreme far right’.

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          6 months ago

          Yes there was a massive Lurch right in the 90s. Since then the Democrats have waffled extremely hard. Flirting with moving back left slightly but often retracting back to their '90s positions. But there have been a few solid moves to the left in the last 20 years. Nowhere near enough of course. But some is always better than none.

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      6 months ago

      Ten years, why not twenty? I wonder how Biden voted on the Iraq war and invasion of Afghanistan?

      How long have we been voting for the technically less evil for now? And where are we at this exact moment? How many times were we all promised “Just vote fascist lite onnnnne more time and next election cycle will be better.”?

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        6 months ago

        Sure, why not twenty. Please compare the state of the Democratic Party in 2004 to today, and tell me which is more right-wing.

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          6 months ago

          Well, how right-wing is genocide compared to starting an unjustfied war?

          Do you actually think that somehow you’re going to convince people that we are both on the precipice of fascism but also the Democrats have gotten better at resisting fascism?