• Donkter@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I think your point is confused. You seem to be saying that gender and biology are able to be linked and the issue is that the mode of linking them stems from an oppressive system. Which, I agree it’s bad to link them in the way society does. But your last paragraph says racial minorities have “taken” evolutionary theories from white supremacists which seems to imply that there is an evolutionary theory that says some racial minority is superior to others and the issue is just that white people think it’s them. Linking it to your other point you seem to think that some expression of gender within our current context is superior to some other.

    I feel that it’s pretty clear that things like gender and race are entirely socially constructed. Saying otherwise places an evolutionary imperative on the conclusion.

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      7 months ago

      The idea that gender is entirely socially constructed is easily the greatest misconception about gender that gets repeated time and again – almost always by cis people, who never think too much about it because they’ve never had to reconsider their own gender.

      Gender roles and gender stereotypes really are socially constructed, like the idea that some clothes are feminine and others are masculine, just to name one example. Gender identity, however, is not. If that was true, like the previous commenter was saying, conversion therapy for trans people would work, when it’s been shown it absolutely doesn’t. Gender dysphoria isn’t a social construct either. Many trans people see their own lives improve considerably after taking HRT (hormone therapy) and having gender-affirming surgeries – how can that be explained socially? Also, we know there is a genetic component to being trans as well, because of twin studies. All of which shows there really is a biological component to gender – just not in the “gender = genitals” way that transphobes think.

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        7 months ago

        You’re right, saying it’s entirely socially constructed isn’t right. That’s my mistake. I was saying that in opposition to OPs comment which seemed to compare the differences between genders to the differences between races and tie biology into it, which is a much blurrier and socially constructed line.

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          7 months ago

          Ok I’m going to put my masters in neuroscience to good use. When right wing idiots talk about “biology” or “genetics” they always refer to karyotype IE XX Vs xy. But this is r******d. What makes you you isn’t random DNA configurations as much as it is the downstream products of that. Neuronal connections and endocrine interactions

          FMRI studies scans of trans women (pre and post HRT) are much more similar to cis women than to cis men. Again, this is also before HRT. So yeah at least in neuroscience gender is testable (to an extent) and supports the assertion that trans women are biologically women. The reverse is also true for trans men. It would also provide a clue as to where some of the dysphoria comes from. (Disconnect between the endocrine system and the nervous system) If your brain is in lady mode and it’s being bombarded with testosterone it’s not going to be happy. In order to get the two to match up you can either rewire the entire brain (not possible or advisable) or go on HRT.

          Obviously gender affirming surgeries have their place, but making the hormones and the neurones cooperate is probably the most important thing as far as keeping the noggin healthy is concerned.