Former President Donald Trump’s supporters say they hold him as a source of true information over their family, friends, and religious leaders, according to a new CBS News/YouGov poll out on Sunday.

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    I don’t want to “study” or empathize with magats.

    I want to belittle and (electorally) destroy them into irrelevance.

    I grew up in a magat household. They’re magats because they’re fucking morons. I solved the mystery for you - no additional study is required.

    I got in a debate once with my mom about the age of the Earth (of course she’s a young Earth creationist). I brought up the speed of light - we see things that are farther than 6000 light years, so the Earth has to be more than 6000 years old. Her rebuttal: “What if the sky is like an Etch-a-Sketch that God is holding up for us to see?” How do you reason with someone that believes something like that? Do you really think I if brought up stellar parallax or spectroscopy or stellar evolution that would change her mind?

    My grandma, I bought her an iPad 10 years ago so she could get on Facebook and watch YouTube and stuff. Big mistake! Now I have to hear stuff about how Hillary Clinton has been arrested and convicted by a military tribunal and is wearing an ankle bracelet and will be put in prison after the 2018 election. Adrenochrome. Comet Ping Pong. Democrats want to chop off elementary school age boys penises. Bamboo ballets. Mike Lindell. Ballots dumps. Obama controls everything. Porn in schools. Democrats are trying to make us eat bugs.

    Prior to the iPad I had probably heard her mention politics like less than a handful of times in my entire life.

    She wouldn’t get the COVID vaccine… Even though she’s 83 obese, arthritic, congestive heart failure, diabetic, and has had two previous heart attacks. Then she got COVID and almost died, was in the hospital for more than month, now on oxygen at home… STILL WON’T GET VACCINATED.

    These are not people that reason or think about anything. The only way to get them on our side would be a propaganda network to compete with Sinclair, Fox, OAN, Newsmax, Hannity, Neck, Levin, Shapiro, PragerU, Crowder, Savage, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Daily Wire, Project Veritas, The Blaze, WND, Candace, Jordan Peterson, The Washington Times, etc… And then pump that down their YouTube and Facebook feeds. Unfortunately I don’t know any left wing billionaires that want to create competing institutions to these things.

    Not to mention the right wing message of simple solutions, zero thinking, and your prejudices are actually a good thing is hard to compete with.

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        You cannot reason someone out of something he or she was not reasoned into.

        I think a lot of Democrats/liberals have West Wing Syndrome where they think if they make a convincing argument in a speech or debate that the other side will then come to the light… They won’t. They’re either evil or stupid or a combination of both.

        Interestingly the magats don’t have this problem. They don’t give a shit about convincing you of anything, they just want their side to win and our side to lose.

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      You’re exactly why problems don’t ever get fixed because all you want to do is some knee-jerk reaction to a situation instead of trying to figure out WHY something happens.

      You THINK you are better than these people, but you really aren’t.

      If this was 100+ years ago, you would be the dipshit yelling at the Germans for starting WW1 and would be actively repressing them even further… which of course is exactly why WW2 happened.

      And I say all this as someone who is absolutely not the type that believes in forgiveness nor do I believe in “live and let live”. What do I believe in, however, is that when an individual falls for this shit, it is on them. But when we have some 20 to 30 million people who have fallen for this shit, it is a systemic problem that needs to be dealt with by going after the institutional and environmental problems that created it.

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        I am better then people that think the world is 6000 years old and we don’t have to worry about climate change because Jesus is coming back soon or people that think Biden is going to declare martial law and round up Christians and conservatives into FEMA death camps (although I’m starting to come around to this idea) or people that think Jew NWO lizard people are deploying gay chemicals via aircraft chemtrails to turn people gay to reduce the world’s population.

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          “I am beter htan people…” Never a great way to make a case, you have lost.

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            Good luck with your systemic approach.

            Like I said in my original comment unless you’re secretly a left-wing billionaire that is going to dump hundreds of millions of dollars into building a competing left media ecosystem then you’re going to make zero progress with the systemic approach.

            The only approach that will work is more people voting until the 20 to 30 million are irrelevant.