• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    An actual atheist wouldn’t care enough about religion to actively spend any of their energy hating it - so what are you really?

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      an actual atheist

      Why do you think being atheist means you’re somehow free from the millions of Christians that surround you? Or the millions of x y z beliefs?

      What will your next logical fallacy be? I’m not going to tell you what this one is.

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      An actual atheist would realize they’re surrounded by braindead ignoramuses who have been persecuting (read: killing) people who dare not to believe their story book magical-ghost-man was actually magical or a ghost, and probably not even real in the first place.

      These same idiots are running and actively destroying the world around them. In fact, some of them intentionally do things to destroy the planet purely to spite the people who don’t believe in their stories.

      So yeah. We think about god. A lot. Just in a wildly different way than theists.

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        An actual atheist would realize they’re surrounded by braindead ignoramuses

        There are a lot of ignoramus things around to believe in… religion being only one of many - and not even close to being one of the worst. It seems to me that (so-called) “atheists” are obsessively concerned about not ticking merely this one particular box - but can be as perfectly open to the rest as any religious person.

        These same idiots are running and actively destroying the world around them.

        Are you trying to say that religion is (somehow) responsible for our impending environmental catastrophe? Just a hunch on my part… but I don’t think you’re going to find many climatologists that will agree with you.

        We think about god.

        Yeah… I’ve noticed. All these (alleged) “atheists” spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about something they vehemently denies even exists.

        That’s the part I find so damn strange.

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          Are you trying to say that religion is (somehow) responsible for our impending environmental catastrophe?

          https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/11/17/how-religion-intersects-with-americans-views-on-the-environment/

          Unclear if there’s a causation but there is very much a correlation. I think there is a causation, these people think Humans couldn’t cause climate change, or that God is ultimately in charge of it and we should just throw up our hands and expect “Him” to take care of it.

          These people vote.

          So yeah, in some way, religion is responsible for it.

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            Unclear if there’s a causation but there is very much a correlation.

            Really?

            That’s it?

            Sure… WASP ideology does seem to make WASP people more vulnerable to the propaganda of the free-market cultists that has been justifying the genocidal destruction and exploitation of our world - but blaming capitalist and colonialist “modernity” on religion is a stretch. A very, very long one.

            These people vote.

            Lol! So you don’t fall for the whole “Magic Sky Daddy” stuff but when the politicians and their propagandists tell you live in a (supposed) “democratic” society it’s hook, line and sinker time?

            Don’t tell me you rejected one set of fables only to fall for another one, atheist.

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      What the fuck do you think I am. A pissed off atheist in a christofascist up-and-comer state. An actual atheist (me) would be mad at this bullshit and I am.

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        christofascist

        I’m taking you have a really, really good argument lined up to prove that Christ was a fascist and proselytized anything that we would today call fascism?

        I’d say that an actual Christian would have a far better reason to be an anti-fascist than you do - but perhaps fake Christianity breeds fake atheism as well.

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      Why not? Give me a reason atheists can’t get frustrated about religion holding back society in the past? Are you the one to define what an atheist is? Judging by your comments I’d argue you should be the last to do that.

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        Give me a reason atheists can’t get frustrated about religion holding back society in the past?

        Your proof of this?

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          How about you answer my question first. Who are you to decide what it means to be an atheist.

          And if you really need examples of that you should read up on human history before you continue any aspect of this discussion.

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            How about you answer my question first

            No, no, no - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

            If you want to blame the west’s invention of white supremacism (for instance) on a Levantine carpenter’s son that lived 2000 years ago you have your work cut out for you.

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                Why is it that every time I bring up white supremacy edgelord atheists start shrinking away like ice from a bonfire?

                You are “rational” enough not to buy into “race science,” aren’t you?

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                  Yeah keep jerking yourself, all you do is prove the point of the post. You’re so blinded by trying to be the smart cookie here you forget to actually participate in the discussion.

                  It has been fun though, you’re good at reflecting.

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                    White supremacy puts the “west” in “western civilization” - do you not see your atheism as an expression of (so-called) “enlightenment” values? Lol!

                    There can be no discussion of liberal values without discussing liberalism’s fundamental relationship with white supremacism - and guess where your ideas of atheism comes from?