• systemglitch@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Ahh yes, more dear mongering!

    The vast majority of the time, saying no is enough. Also carry pepper spray, I do and I’m a guy with extremely good self defense skills, but I’d rather spray than fight some goofs trying to rob me.

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        8 months ago

        Okay, don’t carry pepper spray? That’ll keep you safer. Maybe dress like a clown then, since you seem to be talking like one.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah, fuck the media. Instead, you should try talking to the women close to you about their experiences turning men down. Some might have no issues and think nothing of it, some might have good reason to be calculating. Don’t take it from me.

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      8 months ago

      My first instinct is to believe someone who claims they have “extremely good self defense skills”

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      8 months ago

      Women are very likely to be sexually harassed or assaulted at least once in their lifetime. If it were unlikely, calling it “fear mongering” would actually make at least a little sense.

      I’ve been assaulted once and harassed multiple times, and most people wouldn’t even consider me to be conventionally attractive. I know many women who have faced much worse than I, despite the fact that I’m kind of antisocial.

      I don’t need the news or a comic to tell me I’m in danger.

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        8 months ago

        I’m not sure harassed and assaulted should be in the same sentence with regards to this subject. You may as well compare falling in water to drowning. Basically the same thing with your line of thinking.

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          8 months ago

          🤡🤡🤡

          You’re “not sure” that harassment and… ASSAULT… aren’t relevant enough to the subject of violence against women? lol k.

          You think men who do that kind of shit aren’t significantly more likely to kill us? Fuck, I’d love it if I could go through life being that ignorant and naive.

          Edit: typo

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      I see mansplaining is alive and well on lemmy…but also the old ‘I’ve been trained’ but never in an actual fight.

      All training does is give you options if, and only if you are the type who can go into fight response. It’s a chance. A gamble. Not an assured win.

      psychos target people they feel are vulnerable. some even go after children and elderly or catch people unaware. that is their MO. And IF you are lucky enough to operate a can of spray you’d have to fight your freeze defence that affects the bulk amount of the population. Psychos know this. They lean into it.

      Even with training you run a high possibility of flicking on a freeze response.There are trained people who have also froze when in an actual fight. And you won’t know this til you’re in it. It’s nothing like sparring.

      You’d know this if you actually have done self defence training(any teacher worth their salt start the class with this exact lecture) and have been in a fight to determine which reflex you personally have. even then your specific situation doesn’t help the bulk of the population who freeze.

      The best response is to always run as your first option. Every defence instructor will tell you this. Every defence instructor should tell you this.

      It is not on women to ‘teach him boundaries’.

      Everyone else’s job is to STAY SAFE.

      That’s it.

      They aren’t there to be a hero or teach men to behave.

      stop giving the psycho a pass and stop holding women accountable for what other people do.

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        8 months ago

        He didn’t give psychos a pass, he didn’t mansplain, he didn’t say it was on woman to teach men boundaries. Those are just things YOU said.

        He said you should be reasonably prudent but that you shouldn’t live in fear. This is reasonable advice

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        8 months ago

        What is right wing about suggesting woman carry pepper spray to deal with shitheads who wont take no for an answer?

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          8 months ago

          The part that disregards the actual experiences of women by calling it fear mongering (assuming “dear mongering” was a typo).

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            8 months ago

            Again what is “right wing” about that shouldn’t you be railing about misogyny which transcends the political spectrum.

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          These people just want to hate on anyone that doesn’t say the approved words. It’s an ignorant way to handle oneself and ones interactions, but here we are… reading into statements things never expressed.

          The irony is how convinced they are in their enlightened superiority. At least, that’s how it comes off to me.

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      8 months ago

      Every time you gasp in fear/outrage the media makes $10000.

      It’s a machine designed to fuck your mind. When AI becomes common as toast you’ll really see something.