The US being on par to Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia is disengenuous. While the US is most definitely worse off that many places in Europe, you still have the ability to unionize and most unions have the ability to strike, the one ones I know of that can’t are government workers. The essential difference is in America is the right to work laws, which allow you to be fired for any legal reason or no reason at all. Being in a union or attempting to form a union is a protected status, and you cannot be fired for this reason under threats of fines and lawsuits. If the disparity is that important, Canada and the US should go up a grade.
This is just one metric and does not mean that a country is generally worse than another but just talks about specific metrics. And yes, the US is pretty unique in the world in terms of how limited workers rights are. From a foreign eye seeing how much punishment you can receive from doing anything that remotely ressembles a union in the purported country of free speech is flooring.
Like I said while worse than many European countries our overall workers rights and unionization protections should put us above other “light red” countries.
You are there with United Kingdom, Greece, Venezuela, Oman…
It is not just Saudi Arabia in this category.
Dude, you have not totally abolished slavery, workers right fare better in the Balkans. Yes, that’s a dark angle of USA right now. It does not mean it is a third world country, just that on that metric, it should score much better given its economic status.
I’ve done the mistake of opening his profile. This guy calls “aliens” the immigrants 😅
He is probably just having hard time coping with stats that measure something more useful than economy or weapons and realizing that maybe USA are not an example
Technically. But it’s definitely not polite. It’s a bit like “retard” in that it used to be the terminology but it was used derogatorily so often that that connotation took over.
The US being on par to Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia is disengenuous
The full report is in the link; btw i don’t know the Ethiopian situation, are you sure it’s worse? Just because it’s generally a poorer country doesn’t mean that unions are in a bad shape 😅
Ethiopia actually had strong socialist influence during most of the 20th century, meaning that on paper the worker’s rights are not so bad. Today’s reality is a different matter though, especially as they tried to emulate Chinese style sweatshops for textile etc. production around the 2010s (however the civil war with Tigray more or less put an end to that).
While not quite the same, I recommend looking up exploitation of foreign workers on H-1B visas in the US. And treatment of undocumented workers in the agricultural sector.
The US being on par to Saudi Arabia and Ethiopia is disengenuous. While the US is most definitely worse off that many places in Europe, you still have the ability to unionize and most unions have the ability to strike, the one ones I know of that can’t are government workers. The essential difference is in America is the right to work laws, which allow you to be fired for any legal reason or no reason at all. Being in a union or attempting to form a union is a protected status, and you cannot be fired for this reason under threats of fines and lawsuits. If the disparity is that important, Canada and the US should go up a grade.
This is just one metric and does not mean that a country is generally worse than another but just talks about specific metrics. And yes, the US is pretty unique in the world in terms of how limited workers rights are. From a foreign eye seeing how much punishment you can receive from doing anything that remotely ressembles a union in the purported country of free speech is flooring.
Like I said while worse than many European countries our overall workers rights and unionization protections should put us above other “light red” countries.
You are there with United Kingdom, Greece, Venezuela, Oman…
It is not just Saudi Arabia in this category.
Dude, you have not totally abolished slavery, workers right fare better in the Balkans. Yes, that’s a dark angle of USA right now. It does not mean it is a third world country, just that on that metric, it should score much better given its economic status.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/7478374
I’ve done the mistake of opening his profile. This guy calls “aliens” the immigrants 😅
He is probably just having hard time coping with stats that measure something more useful than economy or weapons and realizing that maybe USA are not an example
Sorry, non-native here, but isn’t “alien” a synonym to “non-citizen” in American English?
Technically. But it’s definitely not polite. It’s a bit like “retard” in that it used to be the terminology but it was used derogatorily so often that that connotation took over.
TIL, thanks.
I’m also non native but I always hear it only from right wing people so I assumed that is at least a bit derogative
The full report is in the link; btw i don’t know the Ethiopian situation, are you sure it’s worse? Just because it’s generally a poorer country doesn’t mean that unions are in a bad shape 😅
Ethiopia actually had strong socialist influence during most of the 20th century, meaning that on paper the worker’s rights are not so bad. Today’s reality is a different matter though, especially as they tried to emulate Chinese style sweatshops for textile etc. production around the 2010s (however the civil war with Tigray more or less put an end to that).
Agreed. Many/most Saudis don’t really work. Their foreign workers have to surrender their passports and are treated like slaves.
While not quite the same, I recommend looking up exploitation of foreign workers on H-1B visas in the US. And treatment of undocumented workers in the agricultural sector.
And prisoners? My understanding is that slavery is permitted in US prisons. (Assuming that is relevant to the discussion.)