Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has told a right-wing radio host that there’s only one tool the state isn’t using to stop migrants from crossing the border into Texas: gun violence, because it would prompt a response from the pesky federal government.
“The only thing that we are not doing is we’re not shooting people who come across the border—because, of course, the Biden administration would charge us with murder,” the Republican governor told former NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch on her radio show last week.
Yeah that’s because it’s murder…
Biden isn’t a law enforcement official. He’s not a DA. He’s not a police officer. He doesn’t have the ability to have you arrested. I suspect Abbott knows this, but his constituents are too fucking stupid to understand the difference.
On the other hand, if Abbot did indeed order his people to start murdering migrants, you know that the decision to move forward with prosecution would need at least a half nod from Biden. At least on the federal level.
No it wouldn’t. The president isn’t part of the judiciary.
The Judiciary doesn’t decide prosecution, the Attorney General does.
In this case, that would be Merrick Garland, who was appointed by Biden, and serves on Biden’s Cabinet.
Do remember that the President of the United States is the head of the Executive Branch, of which the Department of Justice is a part. This is basic High School civics stuff.
The president can absolutely arrest people
in a “citizens arrest”, sure. But he physically himself cannot perform police functions. If he orders an arrest and the arrest is illegal then that person would be acquitted.
What law says that?
You’re asking for evidence of something that doesn’t exist. If I’m wrong, point to the laws and rules that say I can’t tell you that.
For folk in the States it’s a mix of the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments of the Constitution with mostly individual state laws determining the validity of what constitutes an officer of the law and how a citizen arrest works as part of that individual State’s Criminal code.
If you’re Canadian it’s federal law 494 of the Criminal Code.
To be honest it’s really bloody difficult trying to accurately cite US law in discussion because States have a frankly ridiculous amount of binding power on their citizens which means there are 50+ laws about how exactly citizen versus peace officer arrest is handled… But most of them outline fairly specific limitations like it whether a citizen’s arrest can be applicable for misdemeanors, restrictions on what constitutes a reasonable use of force, rights of an arrested person, what constitutes a humane restriction of person and the requirement of validating the arrest with a judge within a certain time period… You know Haebeous Corpus and all that.
Biden’s Presidential powers probably give him a lot of extra leeway against laws that would persecute him for doing an improper citizen’s arrest but that wouldn’t make an improper arrest stick any more than if you did it. A President is still legally a citizen and not a law enforcement officer.
I’m sorry, do you think we need a law that says the President can’t personally arrest people?
Yikes… Read a book.
Off-topic, but how do you get the 3 Arrows symbol in front of your username?
You can make it anything if you got to your profile settings. Upper right hand corner if your lemmy instance’s home page usually.
What about just shooting nazi’s instead of migrants? Are we allowed to do that? What about nazi’s in wheelchairs? It’s not murder if it’s not human, right?
Conservatives don’t see normal people as humans, but boy do they hate it when that dehumanization is applied to them.
These people will literally apply the death penalty for jaywalkers as long as the jaywalker is "them* (i.e. non white l, male, or just someone they slightly disagree with) and then scream online about how theyre protected from censorship by the first amendment.
Uh chaps, are you aware that your country is derailing faster than a train with toxic shit in Ohio?
Just when I think Texas can’t be any more of an embarrassment than it already is a Texas Republican opens their mouth again.
As a Texan, I hope Ken pushes Abbot off a cliff and dives down after.
c/NotTheOnion
I’d shoot Abbott if I could, but it’s immoral, and I’d get charged with murder, so I won’t.
Is that how that goes? We can say that as long as we admit we won’t do it because of the repercussions? Oh wait, this racist white racist trash is just pissed at the repercussions and not the immorality of the act. Fuck this peg leg piece of shit.
Republicans are doing a fast walk to murdering at their every whim
I thought the Bible was the only thing keeping Texans from killing people, but apparently it’s Joe Biden.
From now on this is going to be my response if a Christian asks me what’s preventing my atheist self from doing all the murdering I want.
“That pesky Joe Biden.”
Jesus would have wanted it this way.
Shit states gonna shit state
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Yes, because that IS murder.
It’s murder only in the case of humans, and we know what they think of the “others”…
i guess Joe lives to ruin their notion of fun down in Texas… hunting innocent neighbors in need when they’re at their most vulnerable… what a joyful place Texas must be…
