You are talking about the compiler, not the language itself. Humans program in programming languages such as JavaScript and C to write computer programs. The code is human readable text in both cases. Both are code to describe how a program operates. Therefore C and JavaScript are programming languages.

With your logic, is Python not a programming language? The common compiler is an interpreter. But there are also real compilers that produce machine code. What about C# and Dotnet langauges and Java? They produce Bytecode that needs to be interpreted by an interpreter and executed at runtime, as these are not machine code yet. Are those not programming languages?

Which one? Hahahahaha.

Nice one.

HTML is not a scripting language, it is a markup language to describe text and give it meaning. You can’t write programs in HTML itself.

Why is a scripting language not a programming language? I am not sure if you are joking (would be fitting to be honest, but ask nonetheless in case it is serious). JavaScript is a programming language, and scripting is a sub category or type of it. The language itself does not define if its a scripting language, this is defined by the compiler.

What about compilers that compile to C first and then machine code / self running executable? I think this is how some Python compilers work (no I am not talking about bundles). What about C# and Dotnet? Java Bytcode?

Isn’t JavaScript is the worst programming language to ever exist.

I can’t answer your question in the title, but I can say what I do whenever I learn a new programming language (even if its temporary just to play around with new languages). My personal Hello-World like program I tackle in most cases is something that runs another program. Lot of my personal projects are actually like that. You can start simple, to learn how to do associated tasks with it. There is a lot you can learn by diving into this (first) simple exercise.

This will help you understanding how to read directories, handle file names and paths correctly, read text files in example, how to spawn a process, handle possible errors and react to error codes, possibly read and process stdout of the program. Also handle commandline options, output stdout so it can be used with other programs easily. Write configuration file and so on.

An alternative thing you can try is, doing a simple grep like program. Or maybe a simple game that asks you a few questions and gives points. Or a note taking app.

Glad we understood our points of view. I honestly didn’t know how to express myself better. And thank you as well staying calm without the typical forum toxicity. :-) I guess there is not much else to discuss about this particular point anymore, as we cleared any prior misunderstandings up.

Ultimately, the law is there, the execution is not.

It’s not the copyright that is broken, but its enforcement. And just because people violate copyright does not mean it is not meant for you as well. Just with any other law. Just because someone breaks the law, does not mean it was not meant for you as well. The copyright is there for you too. That is the purpose.

I know they do this. But it does not change the fact that copyright is for the small guy AND for the big guys.

What exactly do you mean?

It’s also for the small guy, so the big guy does not steal your ideas and use it without compensation.

Ai isn’t a security risk, if you know how to use the tool. Just add the line “Make no mistake” to the prompt. Not even a “please” is needed.

Modern problems require modern solution.

As a European, would it be enough for me to use a distribution that is not from the US? So they would not have to implement age verification at operating system level. All the service (such as Flatpak in example) would still work without verification, right? Can I escape the US law as a European user?

Copyright is not dying, that is what Ai companies and those who do not care want you to believe. So you stop caring too. Copyright is an important law around the world. Just because there are loopholes and current difficulties and not being clear, does not mean its dead or dying. It just means (as always) needs some new adjustments and clarification to adapt to new technology.

I think everyone should care about lawas and legality. It’s a bad advice to tell anyone to not care.

So you don’t care about GPL and Open Source then?

As far as I understand, Google scrapes data, processes it and uses it for commercial cases. It’s a company, not a private person scraping and using for personal cases. A very important distinction.

I don’t like that one and the same character looks different on the same line (here console.log).

Or like StackOverflow… where the question was asked before and it gets closed immediately.

There were parts compiling though, such as Valkey I think at least.