Ramune

Your original comment in response to the 1968 Vietnam protests stated “before we got all police-statey”, which any reasonable reading would see it as implying we were not police-statey in 1968 and became so later. Dude posts about Kent State which happened in 1970 to show what makes them believe we were already police-statey around that time. How you manage to read that as saying things haven’t gotten worse since 1970 is beyond me.

Edit: I’m not here to debate the definition of police state or whether we are one, I’m here to point out what is and isn’t there in the actual comments

We are not talking fatalities, we are talking casualties. You cannot convince me that an explosive decompression at 16k feet won’t cause serious injury at the least.

Edit: seat belts are designed against the forces of severe turbulence, not explosive decompressions. Assuming the seat belt actually holds, all the forces are applied against the single point of contact the belt has with the midsection of the passenger. Reminder that the forces were enough to torque two seats, rip the padding off the closest seat, and ripped the shirt off a nearby passenger. I actually think there is a decent chance there would’ve been a fatality should anybody have sat in the closest seat.

The Alaska door plug incident didn’t have casualties only because it just so happened nobody was sitting in the two seats directly adjacent to the door plug.

Edit: the point isn’t to dispute whether somebody would have died or not, but to not let a stroke of luck downplay the severity of the actual issue