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Hmm… I suppose they’re not wrong seeing the most successful action franchise today—Devil May Cry—took the combo simulator route, which’s not necessarily bad, just not in line with the design principles of the genre’s best games: Devil May Cry 3, Bayonetta, and Ninja Gaiden 2.

We need the challenging/awesome action balance to come back, for sure.

Any action/fighting/shmup franchise because the stories are typically nonexistent/shit anyway:

1. Bayonetta: I recommend the original as a starting point for an authentic action experience, but Bayonetta 2 is more beginner-friendly.

2. Devil May Cry: either 3, or 5 will work—3 if you’re after a challenging experience, and 5 if you’re looking for an insane combo simulator. 1 could work as an entry point, but it’s too old and will not appeal to everyone.

3. Ninja Gaiden: I recommend the original Ninja Gaiden 2 on XBOX (not Sigma) if you’re after nonstop action, and Ninja Gaiden Black if you’re more of a souls-like fan.

4. Crimzon Clover: World EXplosion is the superior game.

5. Under Night In-Birth: I recommend Sys:Celes because it’s the only one with functional netcode.

6. Persona 4 Arena Ultimax because it’s the only Persona Arena game, they just started at Persona 4, and the story has tie-ins for Persona 3 and 4.

7. Guilty Gear: start with XX Accent Core Plus R if you need the “the most Guilty Gear” because every character has the most moves they’ve ever had throughout the series. -STRIVE- for beginners, and Xrd if you find XX inaccessible. OG Guilty Gear is a broken artifact, maybe to be admired, but not taken seriously.

8. DoDonPachi: DaiOuJou: widely regarded as a shmup goat and the best DoDonPachi game. I recommend the Black Label release.

God, the cringe…

You may wanna re-read my comment—I did not bring up cut scenes, or claim Naughty Dog games don’t have enough gameplay sections.

My point was Naughty Dog’s gameplay sections are uninspired, non innovative, and passable at best because they’re more interested in telling a story than innovative gameplay.

Whether I like narrative-driven games or not is of no relevance.

Maybe not the length of the main campaign, but good luck 100%ing Cartherine, holy shit. Nevermind Full Body. There’s like 8 endings combined + insane challenges and 64-stage game within the game. +100 hours easy, if not more.

Makes sense. Why they’re not marketing more towards their growing Linux-based buyers is beyond me.

It’s all relative. Mediocre is still better than garbage, but not necessarily interesting or innovative. It’s just “fine” because the whole point of the gameplay in these games is to progress the narrative forward. Mastery is rarely, if ever, required and gameplay depth is of no interest to players or developers.

You ignore all of that and start comparing their catalog to Ubisoft pumping out generic trash for years (NGL that Prince of Persia game is sick though) and you get a much brighter picture that doesn’t necessarily take all factors into account.

Personally, I play games for the hyper engagement they offer, which I expect from hobbies and cannot get from film or literature. Stories, on the other hand, I can find elsewhere, so I don’t necessarily care for them that much in games.

Again, it’s all relative.

I was gonna say “Yeah, they have a good track record making playable movies.” But that’s not fair to Jak and Crash.

Still, they haven’t made anything with interesting gameplay since like 2004.