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  • happy to get into into these subtopics, but it’s also possible i may not be understanding you properly because i agree with alot of what you just said.

    what are you attributing the close to 0 probability to?

    if you wanna say “whats the probability that CMG was at least partly talking out their arse about their capabilities (and especially any claim they were currently in possession of that capability)?”

    i’d also give it like >90% probability they (CMG) are full of shit. in which case you could say i agree with you (to within say 10% error margin).

    if you’re instead saying the probability is ~100% that audio surveillance capability cannot possibly currently exist outside TLAs because “someone would’ve published it already” then i really cannot agree. (and afaict that ars article does not support that stance either)



  • Not disputing the three letter agencies

    The capability they were claiming to have would make a three letter agency very excited.

    sorry i didn’t understand. didn’t you say you don’t doubt TLAs likely already have this capability?

    oppressive regimes

    most (all?) of whom are operating outside typical legal constraints and likely already have access to the million dollar exploit trade which already exists.

    further, i’m not sure how this changes the landscape anyway? its not without precedent that variations on capabilities can be useful to more than one market segment concurrently?

    trivial to discover and flag as malware

    can you explain further what you mean by this? i’m not sure there’s anything trivial about conclusive analysis of the deep complexities and dependencies of modern smart devices

    Apple and Google would also be very keen to find and squash whatever loophole let’s them record without showing the notification.

    historically we’ve seen google can take over half a decade to address such things, afaict (welcome correction on this) apple’s generally been faster to respond, and i do agree apple’s current public image attire would be contrary to be seen to enable this. [not simping for apple btw, just stating that part of their brand currently seems to be invested in this]

    in reality there are a confluence of many agendas and there’s likely ALOT of global users running non-bleeding edge or other variations on the myriad of sub-system components, regardless of what upstream entities like google implement. if you are aware of any conclusive downstream binary analyses please link

    which if true would have been exposed/validated by security researchers long ago.

    i agree the probability of discovery increases over time. and the landscape is growing more hostile to such activities. yet i’m not aware that a current lack of published discovery is actual proof it’s never happened.

    tbh we have our doubts this leak is directly connected to solid proof “they are listening”.

    but we’re not currently aware of any substantiated reasons to say with certainty “they’re absolutely not listening”






  • Notice how public discourse goes round & round in a lively show, but never seems to get anywhere?

    This is strawman public discourse, and its largely by design.

    Stop thinking, worrying and especially talking about climate change.

    Instead talk about pollution & contamination

    Everyone can see it. It can’t be denied or handwaved or debated away.

    STOP POISONING OUR AIR, WATER AND SOIL.

    WE NEED THEM TO BREATH, LIVE AND GROW OUR FOOD. (duh)







  • i agree with everything you’ve said including your links between causation etc

    except the final link you make that its the consumer, i note you said ‘partly’ a consumer issue, so its not a full attribution - perhaps i’m misinterpreting what % you’re attributing.

    tbh my take is alot of people would like an option between paying $2 for a garment they know involved exploitation/slavery vs an accessible1 independent option that doesn’t cost $500/garment.

    i don’t think people are still choosing the $2 option because they’re ok with slavery. but (tragically?) they’re more ok with someone else being the slave vs them being the slave - which is what they’d basically be if every piece of clothing cost them $500.

    and i think we know the reason there’s very little accessible options in between is because the game is rigged, you (HelixDab2) can’t realistically enter the game without serious capital behind you (ie. wealth/connections) to reach the volume prices which might give us an option in between - the market isn’t fair, its been stitched up long ago, by the same people who don’t produce anything and greedily skim off the top.

    the venn diagram of independent designers fairly charging $500 for their labor and the greedy skimmers getting fat without producing anything themselves is two separate circles - they’re worlds apart

    1 Quick note on accessibility, there are ofc some scant options between $2-500, but what isn’t clear (ie. readily accessible) to the consumer is which of those options isn’t just some greedy bastard buying a $2 option and selling it on for $15.