Socialism would be if the inhaler companies were democracies that were owned by everyone who worked there, rather than dictatorships owned by a CEO.

This isn’t socialism. It’s social democracy, and arguably simply social liberalism

Biden and Netanyahu are currently perpetrating genocide. Haley is not.

What did Never Again mean after the Holocaust? Did it mean nothing?

Who cares? Biden sent the bombs and Netanyahu is using them. She has no power here - they do.

She’s evil as a general matter. But Biden and Netanyahu are worse regarding the current genocide

“The Germans needed the gas to fight back the Soviets - how were we to know they would continue to send our gas to Dachau?”

Why is Biden sending bombs then?

But she obviously will never be charged. Ever.

Genocide is bad because it’s evil, not because it’s illegal. Idk why you’re fixated on laws here

Israel’s intention is to resolve the Palestinian issue by exterminating the Gazans. They will then continue to ethnically cleanse the West Bank via illegal settlements and terrorism. Once that is completed, they will turn to Lebanon. This is Likud’s goal of creating Greater Israel, and will be accomplished with American funds and bombs for so long as AIPAC has power.

Biden and Trump will both facilitate this. Which will further erode American international influence and degrade the “rules based world order.” Which is a further symptom of the decline of the American empire. Which will negatively effect the longterm outlook of American citizens

Trump is worse than Biden. But Biden is permanently destroying Millenial and Zoomer view of the Democratic Party. Which means fascism will be elected in 2028 or 2032, if not in 2024

presidents are required by American law since 2008 to ensure that Israel is better armed than all its neighbours

Or else what?

Also, funding and arming genocide is also illegal. And immoral. And stupid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1091

Did you vote in that primary to try and get a more progressive candidate? Have you worked to get your local community to support more progressive candidates in small offices, so they can eventually become high level candidates?

Yes, actually

The point is his career took twelve years and it was considered a meteoric rise, incredibly fast.

Right, because he was willing to be a corporate shill who happened to be generationally charismatic. Which is what Buttigieg tried (and failed) to replicate. And is what Bill Clinton successfully did in 1992 - though he had a longer career prior to that than either 08 Obama or 2020 Buttigieg

The system and ruling class are highly opposed to socialists. And are even opposed to social democrats like the Nordic countries or FDR. We live in an oligarchic empire in decline. Which means that fascism is unfortunately very likely in our lifetimes - if not via Trump in 2024, then likely via someone else in 2028 or 2032. The fact that we’ll soon be dealing with increased millions of climate refugees, both internationally and from gulf states like Florida, will only accelerate such devolution.

So telling people to vote harder is very insufficient. People are correct to be depressed and furious. Their futures are bleak - but not as bleak as the futures of their grandchildren

Biden/Dems sent the genocide bombs and Haley/Republicans autographed them.

I’m not sure how that improves things

actual conservative voter support is still soft.

That is really not true at all. He is beloved by the base and is exactly what they want

Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.

Yes, but why does that mean stopping US weapons shipments to Israel would cause Iran to invade/attack/etc? Israel has a huge weapons stockpile and is still a Western ally - they just happen to be committing genocide with American funds and bombs.

Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?

https://www.ft.com/content/6700a246-e0cd-49d8-b5ef-d2379e86290f

“The administration of President Joe Biden will work with Congress on possible sanctions against the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor announced it was seeking arrest warrants for senior Israeli and Hamas officials, US secretary of state Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.”

we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu

We resumed those shipments and funds, and Israel has since crossed Biden’s red line and attacked Rafah

Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin

Netanyahu/Likud are dictators who control Israel. Until he/they are removed, their interests are Israel’s interests. Which means that Israel is a Russian asset with a stranglehold on American funds thanks to AIPAC

Everyone on this site thinks that the GOP of 2024 is a fascist party and that Trump is worse than Biden

He could deny them weapons, which would inevitably lead to outright war with Iran and an increase in Russian influence in the region

Why?

He could fully commit to Netanyahu’s madness (i.e., what Trump wants to do), fully empowering genocide while using no political leverage on Israel.

Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ

He could try to limit the damage by imposing conditions on weapons sales and attempt to thread the needle, recognizing Hamas for the grotesque terrorist organization it is while using political pressure to prevent as much needless death of civilians as possible. This is what Biden is trying to do.

Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide

Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel

But if you know you need all the votes you can get, then your strategy should be to acknowledge and assuage the concerns of your base. Your strategy should not be to tell your base to shut up, to call them Russian agents, and to stop publicly talking about how the United States is arming and funding a genocide, for example

Biden has significant weaknesses that need to be acknowledged and addressed. Ideally through policy changes. But if not that, then through significantly better rhetoric than his admin/team/PR agencies are currently using.

Insulting your critics is the worst possible move, especially when their criticisms are real and valid. We’re not talking about people who believe Hunter Biden was the mastermind behind Pizzagate - We’re talking about the majority of registered Democrats who believe that Israel is committing a genocide with American money and bombs. And we’re also talking about the median American family who can no longer afford to keep up with the increases to the cost of living - let alone buy a house for the first time without parental support. These are real concerns and Biden deserves criticism for them - and, ideally, he needs to deliver policy that addresses these concerns

Then why bother rebutting the type of posts contained in the OP image?

Obama is a neoliberal. I don’t want more elected politicians with his views

If I did want Obama 2.0 then I’d vote for Buttigieg. And I hate Buttigieg

There is not evidence that conservatives will support him

But you’re stifling Democrats who are criticizing Biden by claiming that they’re all actually Russian bots

Which, actually, is exactly what a Russian bot would do - convince lefty Dems that mainstream Dems are out of touch elitists who don’t care about their concerns and will dismiss any criticism of Biden as foreign interference rather than disagreement with policy choices like genocide support. Which, of course, will cause those lefty dems to resent the Democratic Party and decrease the likelihood they vote for Biden

So you’re doing Russia’s work for them by continuing this line of attack. You need the votes of young people/zoomers/lefties. You lose parts of that vote by acting like their criticisms are foreign disinformation. Which helps Putin.

Which part isn’t true?

Everything I said is true. But idk which part you’re objecting to