In complete agreement. I hate crossovers so much.

Have you looked at this wagons or Volvo wagons ? Or just a good old tacoma or tundra long box ?

This is why I go the extra mile to keep iot out of my life. Especially in cars , which is getting hard, but I figure my future cars I’ll likely retrofit something old. Newest I’ll tolerate is 2014, with no touchscreen.

I hate whoever changed this nomenclature. It’s PM and I will die on this hill.