The only good reply in the thread. Thanks for saying this

It is unrealiatic, that in a stable software release there is suddenly, after you tested your backup a hard bug which prevents recovery.

How is unrealistic? Think of this:

• day 1: you backup your files, test the backup and everything is fine
• day 2: you store a new file that triggers a bug in the compression/encryption algorithm of whatever software you use, now backups are corrupted at least for this file Unless you test every backup you do, and consequently can’t backup fast enough, I don’t see how you can predict that future files and situations won’t trigger bugs in a software

Going unmaintained is a non issue, since you can still restore from your backup. It is not like a subscription or proprietary software which is no longer usable when you stop to pay for it or the company owning goes down.

Until they hit a hard bug or don’t support newer transport formats or scenarios. Also the community dries up eventually

As long as you understand that simply syncing files does not protect against accidental or malicious data loss like incremental backups do.

Can you show me a scenario? I don’t understand how incremental backups cover malicious data loss cases

how does this look safer for rsync? For me it looks like the risk for that is similar, but I might not know background of development for these.

Rsync is available out of the box in most linux distro and is used widely not only for backups, but a lot of other things, such as repository updates and transfers from file hosts. This means a lot more people are interested in it. Also the implementation, looking at the source code, is cleaner and easier to understand.

how do you deal with it when just a file changes?

I think you should consider that not all files are equal. Rsync for me is great because I end up with a bunch of disks that contain an exact copy of the files I have on my own server. Those files don’t change frequently, they are movies, pictures, songs and so on.

Other files such as code, configuration, files on my smartphone, etc… are backup up differently. I use git for most stuff that fits its model, syncthing for my temporary folders and my mobile phone.

Not every file can suit the same backup model. I trust that files that get corrupted or lost are in my weekly rsync backup. A configuration file I messed up two minutes ago is on git.

what other people are saying, is that you rsync over an encrypted file system or other type of storages. What are your backup targets? in my case I own the disks so I use LUKS partition -> ext4 -> mergerfs to end up with a single volume I can mount on a folder

I am simple man s I use rsync.

Setup a mergerfs drive pool of about 60 TiB and rsync weekly.

Rsync seems daunting at first but then you realize how powerful and most importantly reliable it is.

It’s important that you try to restore your backups from time to time.

One of the main reasons why I avoid softwares such as Kopia or Borg or Restic or whatever is in fashion:

• they go unmantained
• they are not simple: so many of my frienda struggled restoring backups because you are not dealing with files anymore, but encrypted or compressed blobs
• rsync has an easy mental model and has extremely good defaults

interesting. This could all be solved if gatekeeper doesn’t allow port redirection on 80 unless explicitly configured by the administrator, right?

thank you for the reply. All the stuff you wrote makes sense.

But even if I obtain a LetsEncrypt cert, any LAN device can do the same thing, so the whole TLS can still be MITM-ed.

can you elaborate?

Very interesting project, thanks for sharing and working on this. I am actually one of your target user, where I have enough knowledge to implement my own router, at the moment running on gentoo.

I would like to use this but it lacks port forwarding and a firewall, that is a must. I’ll try it out nevertheless. I’m quite impressed by the stylish HTML graphics, and I appreciate your departure from the typical “modern” gray corporate Bootstrap UI design. It’s really, really cool.

One question. how do you envision exposing this service to the internet? I quite despise rust but I wonder if the use of a memory safe language would help with the inevitable bugs, especially if you put even more features into gatekeeper.

you are literally just posting buzzwords. You can be lean with mysql, you can write bloaty programs with rust. I would argue most rust webservices are shittier than java ones

is there a readable version?

My point: if you’re getting started selfhosting you have to embrace and accept the self-inflicted punishment. Good luck everybody, I don’t know if I can keep choosing to get disappointed.

I would say that your self inflicted punishment is using windows. Switch to debian and thank me in six months

are you jelly? this is totally my experience and the experience of people in my circle

I am using vikunja for the same thing

Guys, downvotes are not the DISLIKE button, let’s not become reddit please

Not only it can be done but I think it is the way to go. You then have to manage permissions and backup only on one database, and the performance improves given that you let postgresql manage it’s own IO. It goes without saying that you should use postgresql instead of mysql

I used many of them and settled for bare repos on an host with ssh access

• gitea / gogs: too many database corruptions I am getting ptsd just talking about it
• gitlab: too big, too resource hungry for something so simple. Didn’t use 90% of the stuff that offered
• gitbucket and onedev: those are very good and are sort of setup and forget because they just work. They have different features set so check them out.

In the end given that I just have a bunch of users and don’t need many fancy features (we share patches over email and matrix) on our community server we are just using ssh and klaus as a web frontend

I agree with all the comments so far but would like to add my own thoughts. Users are not important. Personally I moved to lemmy because the quality of discussion on reddit dropped so much.

This has been my trajectory:

• avid reddit user and content creator there (not sure if the right term) 2016 - 2018
• lurker from 2018 to 2023
• completely dropped reddit and moved to lemmy

My hope is that we can have the same kind of content and discussion in pre 2020 reddit