TimothyOilpants

No one cares about the numbers… but they reflect how well you are getting your point across and whether people find your ideas compelling. If you don’t care about effectively communicating ideas then you are nothing but a psych patient barking from atop a soap box…

It’s your who needs works

Case in point. 😂

Clearly your communication needs work based on how you’re getting ratioed…

…I’m not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I’m sorry if that’s how it came off.

By you suggesting that he and Trump are like minds or would be comfortable bedfellows…

Hundreds of Han Chinese have been killed and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of infrastructure and private property have been destroyed by religious extremists in Xinjiang. At the radical end, the beliefs of an element of that society are incompatible with the stable, secular humanist

You can believe whatever you want, but once your beliefs motivate, and allow you to morally justify, the murder of your neighbors, you have broken the social contract of peaceful society and are no longer entitled to its protections.

Honestly, I think the tactic of isolation, re-education, and rehabilitation is REMARKABLY reserved and humane given the already unacceptable loss of human life.

Keep in mind that while the Uhygurs today represent an ethnic minority in the region, that is only after a centuries long history of organized military oppression and violence against the Han Chinese at their hands.

So none then?

Almost half of the Canadian population isn’t even ready to reconcile our own ongoing genocide…

And if those traditions aren’t kept within their homes and places of worship?

What happens when beliefs become radicalized and inspire violence against other ethnic groups? Or disruption of public order or the freedoms of others?

What IS the right way to unify 1,400,000,000 people into a cohesive, functional society where the rights of the individual do not detract from the greater good?

You see no irony in your “rebuttal” to my point being locked behind a Western paywall?

It seems clear that you’ll continue to avoid real discussion and dismiss my perspective with some conspiracy minded magical thinking regardless of how this “conversation” proceeds…

You’ve made no attempt to rationalize or justify your opposition. You’re using ad hominem attacks to imply the blanket superiority of your moral position without any logical connective tissue. “Someone has a different opinion to me? They must be a Chinese propagandist!”

If you don’t have an actual counter-argument to present, I’m not interested in indulging further.

The concept of intellectual “property” is asinine.

Scientific knowledge should not be treated as a commodity, leverage, or a privilege.

Greater understanding benefits all of humankind, and it is morally indefensible to gatekeep progress to the benefit of any minority.

And ANYTHING to do with natural resource harvesting and processing.

The Alberta separatism thing has influenced my opinion on the Xinjiang Uyghur situation. Providing a decent standard of living for >1,400,000,000 is a big undertaking, no one in human history has come even close. Absolute individual liberty sounds good on the surface, but at what cost?

If you have a small, but very disruptive minority of your population who have made it clear that they would rather tear your country apart than integrate into your established social fabric and norms, what do you do? Isolation and re-education seems like a reasonable, and humane option. Extermination or expulsion would be much easier solutions; investing the time and resources to improve material conditions while also giving people the opportunity to be rehabilitated seems like a preferable alternative.

I see a lot of people very critical of China’s Sinicization campaign; but at the same time I also see growing instability in most other culturally diverse nations. Ideological extremism is on the rise, anti-immigration sentiment plagues many other developed nations, and I have yet to see systems or proposed solutions which I think can scale to the extent required for a population of 50,000,000… Let alone billions.

To be fair, kids clever and motivated enough to get around this type of gating generally aren’t the ones at the greatest risk. I think this is more about creating a reasonable barrier to protect our most vulnerable.