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These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to “retaliate” against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They’re basically modern V1/V2 rockets “This will terrify the russian population into submission!!”

^ yep

Why are you linking an actual propaganda thinktank as an example as of Uyghur Genocide?

You could link any source, but you link one that is staffed by people who’s careers have been purely to lie about American’s enemies and push American interests?? I hope you’re a little sharper than that and you’re just linking that because you hope other people will swallow anything.

“HEY GUYS THIS ORGANIZATION THAT IS PAID TO TELL ME THAT CHINA IS BAD, GET THIS, SAYS CHINA IS BAD!!”

Come on bud.

Hexbear - “that’s true, I see how our culture can be hard to decipher”

Lemmylib - “you guys are huge dicks without provocation”

Hexbear - oh well fuck you then :)

Lemmylib - “see, so hostile!”

If we respond to people being needlessly aggro with quip derision it’s “so uncivil!” If we respond to people in good faith by trying to explain our differing views it’s “wow im not going to read that!”

So what should we do?

Most civil and good faith lemmylib.

Americans can call the sky green as much as they want. In the rest of the world, Liberalism = Liberalism, not “democrat”.

Liberals are people that believe in liberalism, which can be summed up as “everyone has the individual right to be an asshole, even if it fucks everyone else over”.

Fascism is only a vibe, and the vibe is “something CmdrShepard disagrees with”

This is revisionist, river rock stacking and outdoor cats are strictly forbidden.

Nah we clock in early.

“hexbear is toxic”

You’re likely getting that response because Hexbear has developed it’s own culture of having earnest conversations that are intended to enrich and inform the users taking part in the discussion.

The derisive, dismissive responses are a reaction to someone breaking that etiquette by grandstanding, accusing people of logical fallacies, or resorting to insults: these are things that indicate that the person isn’t sincerely interested in trying to understand the person they are speaking to.

That’s the second person from hexbear that you didn’t realise at the time of posting. You’re going to have to get better at spotting us if we’re so awful.

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

I’m sure Russia had to hold, (at gunpoint?) the people of Donbas who had been shelled for 8 years by the Ukrainian government to get them to vote to leave Ukraine. Or the people of Crimea who had already voted to leave Ukraine before the Russian Federation even existed.

Ah yes, “free” as opposed to »free« Ukrainian elections.

In free, western Ukrainian elections, the ruling party simply bans opposition parties that they don’t approve of and seizes their assets.

You acknowledge that people have a right to defend themselves, and be supplied weapons to that effect. Your usage of “propped up” also suggests you acknowledge that there were legitimate separatist sentiments in Ukraine in 2014. Why do your principles of armed self determination break down when applied to Donbas? Seems that “tankie” is your word for “someone that believes in self determination”.

When did that happen tankie?

Minsk 2, proposed by Russia, outlines that control of the border should be restored to Ukraine, and that Donbas should be reintegrated democratically back into Ukraine with a level of federalization to protect it from future lapses in Ukrainian democracy.

Interesting how dronies keep saying that the east is forcing Donbas to keep fighting. But when Russia suggests they give some land to Ukraine to stop the war, Donbas gets offended and want to keep fighting.

You’re having a hard time because you’re realizing you’re closer to being a bot than we are.

currently trying to genocide

This piqued my interest, since a lot of the Uyghur genocide narrative collapsed years ago to the point that even the journalists that were reporting it began walking it back.

Taking a look at who is currently reporting on “Uyghur genocide” in 2023, and it’s all organisations like Voice of America, Radio Free Asia, United States Institute of Peace - basically (literal) US government propaganda agencies reporting on the US congress proceedings.