Thank you, I’m going to delete this account now and not come back. In a way I don’t want to since it would be nice to stay, but at the same time, it wouldn’t feel right to stay nor would it feel right to ever come back. Which hurts in a way since there hardly no one, and no where else for me to go anymore, online or offline. I feel kind of silly for thinking I could make friends on here. Such is life, but I guess I’ll go talk to ghosts and swim with them. I also really liked this username. Anyways thanks

Okay, sorry for telling you to fuck off, I thought you were with the others trying to keep these old things going, that really need to be let go and to stop being reactionary.

at least I don’t have my head so far up my ass I don’t take my own shit for gospel

I’m so hurt! How about you go reflect on your own shit

Up your asshole because none of this shit is your business to begin with.

eat shit

Fuck off

Plenty of people talking about this here, how about take your shit snide comments elsewhere?

Shut the fuck up. She did not scam 4000$ If you’re going to misrepresent the situation, how about you fuck off? You’re the one being disgusting. I was the one who gave her 4,000$ and maybe read what I said here. https://hexbear.net/comment/6174872

You want to know something? When I gave money to her, I didn’t feel helpless nor did I feel helpless after. I still felt inclined to help. But you know who is making me feel helpless. You and others with that reactionary attitude. Just shut the fuck up and let it go! She didn’t make people feel helpless but you are.

I think I’m probably just going to burn this account since I don’t like how this keeps persisting, and I feel like I do owe it to you to not be silent. Since it feels like I caused this mess. I’m sorry for not saying anything earlier.

For anyone else I was the one who gave her the 4,000$. It was from what wasn’t taken by the hospital when my mom died and things were sold off. I don’t have any of what I got from my mom anymore since I gave to others here and elsewhere, but I just wanted to say. It really distasteful and also how to word this. Some of you are doing more than just attacking her and still bringing this up, but also I think genuinely harming things as a whole.

I believe her and trust her that she didn’t spend it all on drugs, and besides that she did use it on her needs and to help herself. and I remember she also used it to help others to in her community, which is really amazing considering her situation to sacrifice like that as well. I also gave her that money all upfront since I didn’t want to make her jump through hoops or like make her go through others when she legit needed it more than I did and I still stand by that. And I don’t regret giving it to her.

But it is pretty reactionary and fucked up how a good amount of you immediately go to just blaming her just because of addiction. And it interesting a lot of you are getting mad at her, like I could get mad as that was my 4,000$ but I didn’t. If I’m not mad at her for that, none of you should be either no? Like just let it go, besides it was between me and her, not the rest of you. Like some of you can fuck off for giving indignation. I also gave that much because legit like how is someone suppose to get out of being a situation like she in, if all people do is constantly just give band aids to a bleeding wound?

I dunno, honestly seeing of this stuff just depressing and disappointing. I feel like I just made things worse to be honest.

yea I agree? I just linked it mainly just due to the outline of stuff along also due to Breakthrough News bringing attention to it? I do understand that this has always been the plan and those are solid points that I agree with. Sorry just feels like I’m being jumped on a bit

yes

That’s kind of rude, since it feels condescending. Sometimes things fly over me or confuses me. Like not everyone is going to understand things that are “obvious” and I’m sure there were some things in the past that weren’t obvious to you. What is obvious to one person may not be obvious to another person.

I haven’t seen this posted, but I learned about today from breakthrough news about Project Esther

Leaked Documents Reveal Trump Admin Plan To Destroy Palestine Movement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN8QKCfQHa0

The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian Movement https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/us/project-esther-heritage-foundation-palestine.html or archive link https://archive.ph/Bx3c3

Project Esther: NYT Details Right-Wing Plan to “Rebrand All Critics of Israel” as Hamas Supporters https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/19/project_esther or archive link https://archive.ph/fBdaI

I agree with that, a lot of AI slop is one of the dumbest uses for electricity, and I can see that just being used as a cypher usually. I think at some point in time a lot of these companies are going to regret putting it in things that don’t really have use value for it, especially with how they try to keep pushing it.

there’s a different problem with cooling water where dumping a bunch of hot water back into a river or lake can screw up a bunch of things too, so even when the water isn’t locally depleted because an idiot capitalist chose the datacenter location it’s not free from impact. use quarries that filled up with rainwater i guess idk.

From one of the papers link, mainly in regards to water use, it mainly in just reference to this.

AI’s water usage spans three scopes: on-site water for data center cooling (scope 1), off-site water for electricity generation (scope 2), and supply-chain water for server manufacturing (scope 3)

Anyways that is a good point, and I’m reminded of this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cKUR2GEa1pA or of this article https://www.itpro.com/infrastructure/data-centres/data-center-water-consumption-is-spiraling-out-of-control

Records disclosed during a drawn out legal battle between Google and the city of The Dalles revealed the hyperscaler’s water usage had tripled since 2017. This was particularly worrying considering the area receives minimal rainfall and was in the midst of a multi-year drought cycle.

Overall, Google disclosed that 15% of all its freshwater usage came from areas with ‘high water scarcity’ in 2023. Microsoft, however, revealed 42% of its freshwater withdrawals during 2023 came from ‘areas with water stress’.

but how much of that is specifically from AI or just data centers doing other things? It is fair to say AI will use more of it.

Worth noting that this water usage is mostly from the electricity, making electricity uses water. You are pretty accurate in your assessment and I’m surprised this is an askchapo post rather then an effort post. That’s is worth noting and that one paper linked does bring that up within one of the scopes. And I didn’t put it in effort since I’m borrowing heavily from Alex on this, but also just from looking around to and checking stuff, a lot of his investigation holds up.

mean not really imo. If that electricity could have been redirected to turning off a fossil fuel plant then its still the same “pool” being used. If a datacenter uses 90% renewable but that means the city uses more fossil fuels instead of that renewable, its a wash.

I think that is a fair point. My mindset was thinking of how China is approaching AI, and especially in regards to how their also switching over to renewables over time. It just seems like that the impacts from AI would even be less the more renewable energies are used, in what contexts and how. Since outside of LLM’s they been using it for lots of stuff. I recall reading of China automating a factory line to make one type of missile and it’s variants for 24 hours a day.

You and everyone in Gaza are still humans and are wanted in this world. It’s horrific and evil what zionists, collaborators and betrayers are doing. I hope you continue to stay safe along with your family.