That’s the thing though, all religions are control schemes. Christianity especially. It has nothing to do with being moral and everything to do with being obedient to a particular authority. The core of the faith is authoritarianism, not any branch of morality.

Essentially every aspect of our modern dystopia is a call for revolution. This however is special, not just a call for revolution but to ensure the perpetuators of our dystopia are properly punished.

My response;

How do you handle death being the end?

It’s something of a relief to me. I won’t be around to worry about projects left incomplete or things not done once I am gone. The sense that there is some great finality to the presentation that is my life is nice now that I’ve gotten over being told there would be otherwise as a child.

Seriously, what’s the point in living?

I don’t know about you but I enjoy what I do and further enjoy it when it’s helpful. Books, movies, video games… most things, really, end. People still enjoy them and I’m treating life the same way. I’m enjoying mine while it lasts.

Why be good if there is no Hell?

I don’t get off on other people’s suffering and to the best of my understanding, including some understanding of computer models, cooperation works better than trying to cheat everyone. So, I’m good because it’s the sensible course of action. I don’t need a negative incentive when there’s already positive ones and all of this being on top of Humans being a social species such that most of us can share in the joy of others, especially if we have contributed to it.

You seriously don’t understand God.

Well, if he’s got the powers you describe him as having then he doesn’t want me to understand. How am I meant to believe in an entity with perfect ability to hide from my perception? If it’s so important that I believe in him maybe you should tell him he’s won this hide-and-seek game and he can come out now.

‘Yeah, you’d be surprised how good you are when you’re doing good for the sake of it rather than trying to earn some reward.’

TBF at least one of those has a known answer, it’s just a matter that the problem fundamentally is that those who can meaningfully influence the problem want the problem.

No. My statement is that I’ve yet to receive any kind of response to any inquiry directed toward Jesus while I have never been just wholly ignored by a search engine.

How 'bout that I’ve never gotten no response from Google, or any search engine for that matter, and that is the only result I’ve gotten from Jesus?

atheism@lemmy.world… and you’re supporting one religious state because you don’t like it’s neighboring religious states. I don’t see the sense in that.

This is one of the extremely few cases where I’m not sure if it’s Capitalism made it worse or there was just always some proportion of parents who were thing abhorrent.

• I’m not sure of cases of ‘aEsThEtIc’ being forced on children of times past, though it may more simply have been that their parent’s was the only option not just for reasons of authoritarianism.
• Not parenting one’s children and instead leaving them to ‘thing of the day/age’ isn’t exactly new. I recall stories of children being expelled from the home and left unsupervised until they were expected to come home of their own volition at the end of the day.
• Without knowing what you mean by ‘alarming parenting advice’ I can’t really comment on that but what immediately comes to mind is religious commands to murder children who were insufficiently deferential to their parents.
• Additionally to murder beatings were also prescribed for children in the books of vile darkness.
• This one might actually be some abhorrence unique to capitalism.

I’ve literally had people argue to me that the First Amendment only meant that you could pick whichever version of Christianity you preferred but didn’t specify any right to non-Christianity at all.

When was the last time we had non-Capitalist or non-Christian as options on any level of the selection process? In the two-party duopoly we’ve had… Vivek Ramaswami with the American Fascist Republican Party for non-Christian and then the closest we’ve got to non-Capitalist being Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Bernie Sander’s Social Democracy (which Sanders mislabels as Democratic Socialism).

I find it amusing how the argumentation that America is a Christian Nation is wholly reliant on not understanding political terms along with being ignorant of the history and founding documents of the United States. This is so frequently bundled with American supremacism and yet they care so little for the work of the founders or the history of the country.

Wow, that priest is astoundingly honest. It’s never about proving “heretics” wrong, for the simple reason that they can’t in most situations. The mass-murdering institutions only care about sufficiently large massacres that there’s no-one left alive who would question them.

Yeah, you don’t get ‘hard-coded credentials’ from some bug. This had to be intentional.

Yeah, that would be nice. Unfortunately we have centuries of precedent that the owner class won’t abandon something until they’ve wrong all profitability from it, some point after wringing any qualities of goodness from it perverting the whole of it to perverse profitability.

In order to be free revolting will be necessary, weather that be here or somewhere else.

If they’re by the powerful: They do, and almost immediately after committing them. Corruption is legal here.

We just have to convince a significant number of “rabble rousers” to sign up for a colony ship even if it is Elon’s, then riot and overthrown the colonial authorities once we’re far enough away he can’t readily send reinforcements.

Stop the country, no stop the fucking hemisphere, I want to get off.

Honestly, if they are both that dense to believe that a well-known and well established astronomical phenomena is heralding the end of the world as it hasn’t for millennia of this happening and that insulting that you would only give a major tip when you believed that the recipient wouldn’t be able to enjoy it then they most assuredly deserved the loss.

Honestly, fuck profit-seeking behavior in general and especially with insurance.

Finding perverse intensives in a profit-driven enterprise is a function of how hard you look and what industry. Some industries it’s plainly obvious (insurance) and with all industries a sufficiently good look will find something.