Dekkia

I’m not British.

What war?

idk, all the stuff that worked just fine before brexit maybe.

If there’s anything to be learnt from Brexit, it’s that the EU is (despite its shortcomings) better than no EU. Even for wealthy countries.

The intent is to get people to talk about them and their message.

Well known monuments are great for that kinda stuff.

It’s called "reduce, reuse, recycle’. OP is asking about step two.

lol

I think your argument that it’s OK for people to suffer because they might get better some day is awful. What if they don’t get better? What if it gets worse? Why is this anyones business except the affected persons?

The fact that you battled mental shit is just a display of survivorship bias and doesn’t mean shit IMO.

You moved the goalpost by going from “we should ban assisted suicide” to “we should make suicide harder (instead of actually doing something against the root causes)”.

I’m glad that you “went trough the same and turned out fine”, but most people that bring up that argument have not turned out fine.

You’re just moving the goalpost at this point.

I hope you never get severe depression or any physical illness that wants you to commit suicide. Because I doubt that you would last long, considering you clearly never delt with any of that before.

therapists can’t change society.

So we just let people suffer until society changes itself? And even then there will be people where damage is already done.

Assisted suicide is fundamentally the same thing as non-assisted suicide,

I agree that those things are related. But with assisted suicide people get the option to properly say farewell, have a guarantee they won’t suffer and don’t risk mentally scarring first responders or otherwise involved people unnecessarily. They’ll do it anyways, so why not make it less horrible for them?

What’s a valid reason in your opinion for banning assisted suicide?

Assisted suicide and abortions are tied to informed consent and aren’t really something that can be done ‘on a whim’. (Obviously abortions should be easier to get access to than assisted suicide)

Getting murdered nonconsenting (through war or the death penalty) is something completely different.

I don’t know what to tell you. It seems to me like you’re critical about assisted suicide but are pro choice when it comes to abortions.

In my opinion those two things are different sides of the same coin. Regardless of politics.

It is a political issue because people want it to be one. My comment was about the way the arguments sound, not about what political side says what.

I have no clue why you’re trying to push my argument into a political direction.

I feel like a lot of replies here have the same “every live is precious and needs to be protected at all costs”-vibe as you get with a lot of anti-abortion arguments.

And the US is everyone’s friend that would never use big tech to spy on people or spread propaganda in foreign countries.

Where do we start and where do we stop with that kind of stuff?

If we ban TikTok we also would need to ban a lot of Social media platforms from the US for the same reason.

Edit: I don’t live in the United States.

What?

Do you understand how trials work?

That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It just means that the demo wasn’t public.