• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    11 months ago

    You are not getting an accurate picture of consumer preference, because the segment of the consumer base demanding small vehicles is not having its needs met.

    There are way more than enough small vehicles to choose from. You’re just wrong on this one.

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      11 months ago

      Nothing as small as was common in the 90’s. Regulatory standards and manufacturer preference - not consumer demand - is forcing vehicles to be larger.

      You can’t even get an S10 or Ranger sized pickup anymore.

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        11 months ago

        Nothing as small as was common in the 90’s.

        Sure we do. Ever seen a Smart car? A Mini? Honda Fit? Chevy Spark? Mazda 2? Miata? BR-Z?

        Regulatory standards and manufacturer preference - not consumer demand - is forcing vehicles to be larger.

        It’s all of the above.

        What regulatory standards are preventing more manufacturers from selling sedans and hatchbacks?

        You can’t even get an S10 or Ranger sized pickup anymore.

        Sure you can. Look up Ford Maverick.

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          11 months ago

          Maverick is 7 inches longer, 4 inches wider, and 5 inches taller than a 1990’s Ranger. Despite that, the Ranger’s bed is 20 inches longer than the Maverick’s.

          The Maverick is more comparable to a 1990’s F-150 than the Ranger. Maverick is 6" longer than a 1990s F-150 with the same bed length

          CAFE standards favor the larger footprint.

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            11 months ago

            Despite that, the Ranger’s bed is 20 inches longer than the Maverick’s.

            Because they have 4 doors. That’s not part of any CAFE standard.

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              11 months ago

              The reason they don’t make a 2-door version is because the shorter length of a 2-door would tighten the CAFE standards, and it would not be able to comply.

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                  11 months ago

                  All other things being equal, the smaller vehicle will have better economy than the larger. So the more relevant observation is “it doesn’t have to be longer”. There is no engineering reason why the Maverick has to be bigger than the Ranger, and it would be more economical if it weren’t. It is bigger only to satisfy regulatory compliance.

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                    11 months ago

                    You misunderstood my statement. There is no CAFE regulation that requires vehicles to have 4 doors. The bed is shorter because it has 4 doors. Because that is what consumers want. Not because the law requires it.