• goldenlocks@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re here endlessly repeating the exact same talking points as seemingly your only persuasion, and yet you think that I fell for these arguments? Sounds like whatever political news “source” you use just makes the same talking points about the DNC instead of the GOP. If you claim that these arguments are necessary to “trick” voters, but you use them yourself to try to persuade me, then either you got tricked into supporting the Greens, or you’re trying to trick me yourself.

    Hypocritical of you since the only thing you have to say in response is “no this time I have to vote Dem because Trump”

    I don’t spend money on sending my message out, Dems do, and it clearly worked on you.

    Your refusal to vote tactically doesn’t make you better or smarter than anyone else, if anything it indicates that your priorities are all out of order. It almost sounds like you hate Biden even more than Trump.

    I am voting tactically. Dems have to move left to get my vote. When they move right, they get your vote.

    I got you to send a book right back lmao, all I had to do was call you too stupid to be able to. I wanted to see what I could write in about 10 minutes, the amount of time you said it would take to waste my vote. It was kinda fun.

    Nope, I quickly quoted and debunked your CNN level talking points.

    If only we had politicians in the government right now calling for the end of Israeli aid. Oh wait…

    After consistently voting for it, and will vote for it next year as well. They care about killing little kids as much as you do.

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      I’ve been saying it should be Biden over Trump from the beginning and gave reasons for why I felt it should be so. There’s no inconsistency there. You’ve just been calling the Dems far-right and then complaining that the Dems only get votes by calling their opponents far-right. That’s hypocrisy plain as day. It doesn’t matter if you spend money or not, you’re still out here personally spreading the exact same message.

      quickly quoted and debunked your CNN level talking points

      If you say so, bud. I provided verifiable facts with links that support my stance of why Biden is the better practical choice instead of Stein or Trump. You’ve just been doing whataboutisms this whole time.

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        11 months ago

        Lol, that is 100% true, Dems are far right economically, and only get votes by calling their opponents far right on social issues.

        What about Trump? What about facism? This time is for real!

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          11 months ago

          Lol, that is 100% true, Dems are far right economically, and only get votes by calling their opponents far right on social issues.

          Doubling down on the hypocrisy isn’t going to help you. Here you are calling them far-right again. Which is it, is it a bad thing to scare up voters for yourselves by supposedly exaggerating the evils of your opponent, or something you find useful yourself? These are just empty words without anything to back them up, anyway. You haven’t shown any of this or made any actual comparisons to the right, it’s no more than an opinion. Why does the actual right hate Biden’s economic policy if it’s so far right?

          This time is for real!

          Why not? You’ve certainly not provided anything that would convince me otherwise, you’ve just handwaved it away. It would be hard to argue that these are not unprecedented times for a long list of reasons. We’ve already personally witnessed Trump’s appalling presidency and we’ve already witnessed his attempt at a coup to forcefully stay in office. It’s certainly not impossible that he’d simply try again, and it’s certainly not impossible it would work this time, having learned from past mistakes. This was just 3 years ago, it’s still very relevant to now.

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            11 months ago

            Doubling down on the hypocrisy isn’t going to help you

            Incredibly ironic. You’re the one making up hyprocritical arguments to vote for Dems. That ship has sailed, looks where its gotten us.

            Which is it, is it a bad thing to scare up voters for yourselves by supposedly exaggerating the evils of your opponent, or something you find useful yourself?

            Lmao I’m the one stating facts here and you think you’re Socrates. I’ve sent you examples of Dem policy being terrible, killing thousands of children, it’s not a game.

            These are just empty words without anything to back them up, anyway. You haven’t shown any of this or made any actual comparisons to the right, it’s no more than an opinion. Why does the actual right hate Biden’s economic policy if it’s so far right?

            For show. Biden has a long history of right wing economic policy, support of NAFTA being a good example. His recent breaking breaking of the rail strike shows how your vote gets your right wing policy now in real time. You chose this.

            Why not? You’ve certainly not provided anything that would convince me otherwise, you’ve just handwaved it away.

            Trump is too incompetent to pull that off, having his dumb ass in the white house is a net positive for the world compared to having Anthony Blinken in charge of foreign policy now because Biden is asleep.

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              11 months ago

              You’re the one making up hyprocritical arguments to vote for Dems

              Again, I’ve always said it should be Biden on the basis that Biden wouldn’t be as bad as Trump, despite Biden’s clear flaws. That’s what I’m still saying. You’re the one continuously criticizing the Dems for using scare tactics to get votes, and then promptly doing exactly the same for yourself by baselessly calling the Dems “far-right” over and over.

              I’m the one stating facts here

              Lmao you’ve done nothing of the kind, you just keep giving the same insane opinions. Something like, “Biden broke the UAW strike” is a fact and literally true, well done. That’s the first fact in a good while, though. It’s also just one example, so here’s a counter-example. Trump took SNAP from nearly 700,000 people. Something like, “the DNC are far-right” is just an opinion and not literally true. You’d have a lot more work on your hands to be convincing in that regard when the real right is salivating at the thought of gutting programs like SNAP and Social Security right now.

              Trump is too incompetent

              More handwaving. He literally already came close to stopping the certification of his failure by force and has lots of help from his team of loyal strategists. This election really is like no other.

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                You’re the one continuously criticizing the Dems for using scare tactics to get votes, and then promptly doing exactly the same for yourself by baselessly calling the Dems “far-right” over and over.

                Never made that criticism you genuinely are making things up to feel make yourself feel better for losing this argument. I always said they are right wing economically, and referenced right wing economic policy. Once again your vote is why they don’t move left, because they don’t have to.

                Lmao you’ve done nothing of the kind, you just keep giving the same insane opinions.

                Have sent way more links and referenced actual policy like NAFTA that only a Dem like Clinton was able to pass after Republicans had been trying and failing.

                Something like, “Biden broke the UAW strike” is a fact and literally true, well done. That’s the first fact in a good while, though. It’s also just one example, so here’s a counter-example. Trump took SNAP from nearly 700,000 people. Something like, “the DNC are far-right” is just an opinion and not literally true. You’d have a lot more work on your hands to be convincing in that regard when the real right is salivating at the thought of gutting programs like SNAP and Social Security right now.

                I have stated several facts that you disregarded because they are facts, not because I care about convincing you.

                More handwaving. He literally already came close to stopping the certification of his failure by force and has lots of help from his team of loyal strategists. This election really is like no other.

                It’s not. You will use the same argument in 28 to justify your vote that drags our nation further to into privatization and neoliberalism that Biden made a career of. January 6 was not a real insurrection or else they would have guns and a plan to stay, not a bunch of idiots being let into the capital.

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                  Lol, that is 100% true… only get votes by calling their opponents far right on social issues.

                  Can’t wait for 28 when you libs call the Republican candidate a uniquely dire threat

                  Heard this same story every 4 years my entire life. It’s starting to not work anymore

                  Who’s making things up to feel better? Yeah, you accused them at least a few times of using scare tactics to gain favor, indicating that the threat isn’t really there and that it’s actually nothing to worry about. Then you use the same scare tactics that the DNC threatens to drag the US to the right.

                  Have sent way more links

                  You’ve sent 5 sources across like 28 comments, I’ve done over twice that. So what?

                  January 6 was not a real insurrection or else they would have guns and a plan to stay

                  They did, among other weapons. They also had to be forced from the building before they left, they weren’t leaving on their own. They also weren’t just let in, there is footage everyone has seen of lines of riot cops fighting to prevent entry to the building itself.

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                    11 months ago

                    Those are different arguments, and it’s okay you can’t comprehend that. Not everyone is cut out for this kind of analysis.

                    Who’s making things up to feel better? Yeah, you accused them at least a few times of using scare tactics to gain favor, indicating that the threat isn’t really there and that it’s actually nothing to worry about.

                    You are since you have not yet accepted that you vote is directly linked to genocide.

                    Then you use the same scare tactics that the DNC threatens to drag the US to the right.

                    Not at all the same. When have I said that Dems are far right on social issues? Once again you’re making things up to feel better about clearly being outclassed in this discussion since you are not able do independent research about the effects of your votes.

                    You’ve sent 5 sources across like 28 comments, I’ve done over twice that. So what?

                    Not true, and your links have been irrelevant like how you didn’t even know how party membership works and tried to use that to say the Green party is in decline when it is in a current surge of momentum from Cornell West considering running for the nomination.

                    They did, among other weapons. They also had to be forced from the building before they left, they weren’t leaving on their own. They also weren’t just let in, there is footage everyone has seen of lines of riot cops fighting to prevent entry to the building itself.

                    LOL you don’t even read the articles you post, there are literally no picture of weapons, just text.