@rivermonster I always wonder whether people who want “Arab nations” to take in more refugees are also petitioning their own representatives to take in more themselves.
Pretty much all the biggest refugee-hosting nations are poorer nations.
Oh, I’m with you. Fuck my own country for not taking them in. I’m in the US. Our southern border is one endless crime against humanity. I literally petition my rep and both senators regularly about violations to our consititon and international law that occur here. It is a source of shame for anyone of conscience who lives here.
@rivermonster yeah that’s getting really bad lately.
I’m in New Zealand and I want more refugees from everywhere, including Palestine. It’s frustrating.
Turns out Children of Men is the most prophetic sci fi.
I feel you, I argue for both immigration and asylum to be opened and increased in the US. I regularly am so depressed and dismayed that we aren’t even honoring international agreements and law around asylum for those fleeing innumerable horrors.
@rivermonster to be fair to the US it didn’t actually sign the UN convention on refugees that the rest of the West signed. But I still share your frustration.
I wish we could all work together on this stuff. Instead we have had some shining examples recently of how countries who do take people from warzones get left to take a huge hit, like poor Bangladesh struggling alone to administer Coxs Bazar (the biggest refugee camp in the world, now home to the Rohingya), or the Kurds who bizarrely were left trying to feed and shelter surrendered ISIS fighters from all over the world.
Honestly, my friend, that is just another source of shame that we aren’t signatories. The same as with our failure to sign on to the ICC. Just know some of us in this craphole are fighting the fascists.
Realistically a governments first responsibility before anything else is the physical safety of it’s citizenship.
If you know a percentage of a population are religious extremists which will never integrate into your society and will probably pose a risk, then how can you, as a government, take them in?
AND refugees camps are awful. The Syrian refugee camp is a nightmare and forgotten by the world atm. But it should still be an option to seek asylum vs. staying in a wazone. Asylum from life threatening warzone and conditions us a human right.
I agree with you that there’s terrible challenges get and not trying to sugarcoat it. But right now, it’s simple, the world is failing to make sure those who want out can get out. And it is a crime.
@rivermonster I always wonder whether people who want “Arab nations” to take in more refugees are also petitioning their own representatives to take in more themselves.
Pretty much all the biggest refugee-hosting nations are poorer nations.
Nevertheless, this article might give you food for thought: The Growing Significance Of Malaysia and Indonesia’s Non-recognition of Israel.
Oh, I’m with you. Fuck my own country for not taking them in. I’m in the US. Our southern border is one endless crime against humanity. I literally petition my rep and both senators regularly about violations to our consititon and international law that occur here. It is a source of shame for anyone of conscience who lives here.
@rivermonster yeah that’s getting really bad lately.
I’m in New Zealand and I want more refugees from everywhere, including Palestine. It’s frustrating.
Turns out Children of Men is the most prophetic sci fi.
I feel you, I argue for both immigration and asylum to be opened and increased in the US. I regularly am so depressed and dismayed that we aren’t even honoring international agreements and law around asylum for those fleeing innumerable horrors.
I’m very ashamed of my country on this issue.
@rivermonster to be fair to the US it didn’t actually sign the UN convention on refugees that the rest of the West signed. But I still share your frustration.
I wish we could all work together on this stuff. Instead we have had some shining examples recently of how countries who do take people from warzones get left to take a huge hit, like poor Bangladesh struggling alone to administer Coxs Bazar (the biggest refugee camp in the world, now home to the Rohingya), or the Kurds who bizarrely were left trying to feed and shelter surrendered ISIS fighters from all over the world.
Honestly, my friend, that is just another source of shame that we aren’t signatories. The same as with our failure to sign on to the ICC. Just know some of us in this craphole are fighting the fascists.
Realistically a governments first responsibility before anything else is the physical safety of it’s citizenship.
If you know a percentage of a population are religious extremists which will never integrate into your society and will probably pose a risk, then how can you, as a government, take them in?
It’s a hard sell any way you slice it.
AND refugees camps are awful. The Syrian refugee camp is a nightmare and forgotten by the world atm. But it should still be an option to seek asylum vs. staying in a wazone. Asylum from life threatening warzone and conditions us a human right.
I agree with you that there’s terrible challenges get and not trying to sugarcoat it. But right now, it’s simple, the world is failing to make sure those who want out can get out. And it is a crime.
Giving asylum is also not equal to citizenship.